Rotation — Essential for Changing the Microbiome

Rotation as a key facet of fixing or keeping a microbiome healthy was first introduced to me in 1999 by Cecile Jadin, MD (Surgeon in South Africa) with the Occult Rickettsia Protocol from the Pasteur Institute of Tropical Disease (where her father worked). I have written about this prior, Rotation and Pulsing: Herbs, Probiotics, Antibiotics [2017], Rotate, Rotate, Rotate and Curcumin [2016], Continuous or Pulse Supplements? [2015]

Some literature on it:

The Microbiome is not a Mechanical System

Think in terms of societies. Think about a gang that steals quality goods at a store. The antibiotic may be having a store detective. Issue solved – no more crime! Wrong, the gang will change to a different crime, they will adapt. It will become a continuous battle and escalation by both sides. Many people view the microbiome as a simple mechanical system unfortunately, bacteria continuously mutate (think of COVID mutations). If the antibiotic kills off 99% of the bacteria, the remaining 1% likely has a mutation that allowed it to survive. Give this 1% a few weeks and we are back to old levels with the antibiotics making no difference.

How does this apply to vitamins, amino acids, even food? The simplest explanation is that those items affect the growth of different bacteria. Different bacteria strains produces different compounds, including  bacteriocins (natural antibiotics). When you think about probiotics, remember that they often work due to their natural antibiotics (see above for literature).

Different Strains of Lactobacillus Reuteri [Reuterin is an antibiotics]
[From prediction to function using evolutionary genomics: human-specific ecotypes of Lactobacillusreuteri have diverse probiotic functions[2014].

To jump to the human body for an example, when you were 20 you likely drank a lots of pop, smoked.. ate a lot of fast food… and were “healthy” and fine. As you body ages (evolved), the same diet would worsen diabetes, weight, and a dozen other conditions that will evolve. The microbiome changes with time, in fact, it changes faster than your body. When you make one set of changes, like running 2 miles a day, the body may act up with structure damage as you age. Professional players in sports do not age well. Going on a specific type of diet may address one issue and trigger a different issue eventually.

What is the answer? All things in moderation. Instead of just one type of exercise, do a variety of appropriate exercises. Instead of a specific diet (which may deliver insufficient minerals or vitamins), rotate around different diets that addresses the issue you are trying to address. Every change you make, changes the microbiome– sometimes in unexpected ways.

In terms of suggestions from the microbiome prescription site, rotating suggestions is desired — usually there are many suggestions so it should not be hard.

What is the Ideal Rotation?

I do not know, I have inferred from the typical duration of antibiotic prescription that 7-10 days is a reasonable guess. I will give a simple example of one rotation that I do (maintaining), alternating the various forms of gluten (the specific types are listed after each).

  • Oats – as porridge: avenin, C-hordeins, γ-hordeins, B-hordeins and D-hordeins
  • Rye – as German 100% rye bread: γ-40k-secalins and high-molecular-weight secalins
  • Wheat — as typical western baked goods: (ω5-gliadins, ω1,2-gliadins, α-gliadins, γ-gliadins and high- and low-molecular-weight glutenin
  • Barley – as porridge: C-hordeins, γ-hordeins, B-hordeins and D-hordeins

My stools will change every cycle – IMHO, there is no perfect stool.

From Isolation and characterization of gluten protein types from wheat, rye, barley and oats for use as reference materials [2017].

The goal is almost like trying to herd a group of cats.

And now for a different condition… Progressive Supranuclear Palsy

Most of the analysis that I have done recently has been either ME/CFS, Long COVID or Autism. If you look at the page entitled Medical Conditions with Microbiome Shifts from US National Library of Medicine you will see a lot of different conditions that may be influence by microbiome manipulation..

Today I got an email asking “My mother in law has Progressive supranuclear palsy (PSP), and Diabetes  and is in a very bad state, there is no help from the mainstream medicine” with samples of her.

My first action is to see if there are any published studies on PSP and the microbiome. There was just one study: “Unraveling gut microbiota in Parkinson’s disease and atypical parkinsonism‘ 2018.

Progressive supranuclear palsy (PSP) is a less well-known neurodegenerative brain condition which is sometimes misdiagnosed as Parkinson’s disease or Alzheimer’s disease (or other forms of dementia). Because of the similarity to some Parkinson’s symptoms during the early stages of the disease, PSP is included in a group of diseases called Parkinson’s Plus Syndrome or Atypical Parkinsonism. However, PSP progresses much faster, causes more severe symptoms, responds very poorly to Parkinson’s medication, and has a significantly reduced life expectancy.

Parkinson’s Europe

At this point out a recent news story, Woman who smelled her husband’s Parkinson’s helps scientists come up with diagnostic test, Sky News, Sep 7,2022. When some ones gut bacteria changes, their smell change. On a little morbid note, in WW2, they could tell dead soldiers apart from their smell (he’s a German, he’s an Italian, he’s an American) [Story]. So avoiding scented products may have health benefits. In Vietnam war, it was different — the Viet Cong favorite smell was Old Spice, it means that there were Americans close by.

Foreword – and Reminder

I am not a licensed medical professional and there are strict laws where I live about “appearing to practice medicine”.  I am safe when it is “academic models” and I keep to the language of science, especially statistics. I am not safe when the explanations have possible overtones of advising a patient instead of presenting data to be evaluated by a medical professional before implementing.

I cannot tell people what they should take or not take. I can inform people items that have better odds of improving their microbiome as a results on numeric calculations. I am a trained experienced statistician with appropriate degrees and professional memberships. All suggestions should be reviewed by your medical professional before starting.

Analysis

We lack any special studies nor any Medical Conditions with Microbiome Shifts from US National Library of Medicine(PubMed) which matches this person except for Diabetes. We do not have enough samples for Special Studies for Diabetes. For the PubMed, this person is sitting at the 95%, so a definite include. There is another PubMed that seem appropriate and which is at the 99%ile, Brain Trauma

Looking at data in detail, we see a definitely interesting microbiome. We have a high quality sample

CriteriaCurrent SampleComment
Lab Read Quality10.6High Quality
Bacteria Reported By Lab960Very high Count
Bacteria Over 99%ile237 is expected, so high
Bacteria Over 95%ile8548 is expected
Bacteria Over 90%ile15596 is expected
Bacteria Under 10%ile29696 is expected
Bacteria Under 5%ile26748 is expected
Bacteria Under 1%ile2427 is expected
Rarely Seen 1%56
Rarely Seen 5%182
Pathogens59
Outside Range from JasonH8
Outside Range from Medivere16Candidate
Outside Range from Metagenomics8
Outside Range from MyBioma7
Outside Range from Nirvana/CosmosId19Candidate
Outside Range from XenoGene5
Outside Lab Range (+/- 1.96SD)37Candidate
Outside Box-Plot-Whiskers194Candidate
Outside Kaltoft-Moldrup347Candidate
Condition Est. Over 99%ile3
Condition Est. Over 95%ile20
Condition Est. Over 90%ile29

Dr. Jason Hawrelak Recommendations are at 99.7% so no red flags from that. There is a huge number of PubMed matches, I will only use the best ones for what was reported for this person. The following sets of suggestions are going to be used for our Consensus Report

  • PubMed: Brain Trauma
  • PubMed: Type 2 Diabetes
  • Outside Range from Medivere
  • Outside Range from Nirvana/CosmosId
  • Outside Lab Range (+/- 1.96SD)
  • Outside Box-Plot-Whiskers
  • Outside Kaltoft-Moldrup

The consensus download is below

Probiotics

From KEGG, we see many of the Equilibrium and PrescriptAssist bacteria listed with the following further down the list (in descending order) (Remember : Lacticaseibacillus is the new name for Lactobacillus)

From the consensus we have (in decreasing order), a similar list.

My gut feeling is that the following products are likely a reasonable choice.

I would suggest starting with whatever arrives first, starting with a low dosage and increasing every second day. Remember to review with your medical professional.

Vitamins

A vitamin B complex and Vitamin C are recommended

Supplements

The top items are all available on Amazon and other stores:

Herbs And Spices

Diet Style

Bottom Line

This person wife also has issues, see And now for a different condition… Part 2. The suggestions are different but creating two different menus everyday would be challenging. See that post for a possible solution.

One of the items cited that I did not include above was dopamine (prescription). Looking at a treatment site for PSP in an attempt to do cross-validation, we see that dopamine is a factor, but things are more complex, see: Excessive dopamine neuron loss in progressive supranuclear palsy [2008].

When I started this project, I saw the potential of using the microbiome as a method to identify candidate treatments in the absence of successful clinical treatments. This is the first attempt of putting this into practice.

And now for a different condition… Part 2

Most of the analysis that I have done recently has been either ME/CFS, Long COVID or Autism. If you look at the page entitled Medical Conditions with Microbiome Shifts from US National Library of Medicine you will see a lot of different conditions that may be influence by microbiome manipulation..

In the same email I got an second challenge: “Father In Law – Diabetes, Heart conditions and High Blood Pressure” with samples of her.

Foreword – and Reminder

I am not a licensed medical professional and there are strict laws where I live about “appearing to practice medicine”.  I am safe when it is “academic models” and I keep to the language of science, especially statistics. I am not safe when the explanations have possible overtones of advising a patient instead of presenting data to be evaluated by a medical professional before implementing.

I cannot tell people what they should take or not take. I can inform people items that have better odds of improving their microbiome as a results on numeric calculations. I am a trained experienced statistician with appropriate degrees and professional memberships. All suggestions should be reviewed by your medical professional before starting.

Analysis

In this case we have an even higher lab quality than the wife, but a lot less bacteria reported. This means that the microbiome is likely a lot less fragmented than the wife.

CriteriaCurrent Sample
Lab Read Quality11.5
Bacteria Reported By Lab628
Bacteria Over 99%ile4
Bacteria Over 95%ile27
Bacteria Over 90%ile48
Bacteria Under 10%ile330
Bacteria Under 5%ile295
Bacteria Under 1%ile237
Rarely Seen 1%12
Rarely Seen 5%41
Pathogens50
Outside Range from JasonH7
Outside Range from Medivere21
Outside Range from Metagenomics9
Outside Range from MyBioma4
Outside Range from Nirvana/CosmosId25
Outside Range from XenoGene6
Outside Lab Range (+/- 1.96SD)14
Outside Box-Plot-Whiskers54
Outside Kaltoft-Moldrup246
Condition Est. Over 99%ile1
Condition Est. Over 95%ile1
Condition Est. Over 90%ile8

Dr. Jason Hawrelak Recommendations has him at the 75%ile — so off, but not really bad. Following the same pattern of analysis as the wife (since we have no matching special studies):

  • PubMed: Hypertension (High Blood Pressure 
  • PubMed: Type 2 Diabetes
  • PubMed: Coronary artery disease
  • Outside Range from Medivere
  • Outside Range from Nirvana/CosmosId
  • Outside Lab Range (+/- 1.96SD)
  • Outside Kaltoft-Moldrup

The consensus download is below

Probiotics

From KEGG, we do NOT find Escherichia coli near the top of the list. We see the usual odd bacteria strains from Equilibrium and Prescript Assist then:

With microbiome labs/ megasporebiotic being a good match.

From the consensus we have (in decreasing order), a similar list.

I would suggest starting with whatever arrives first, starting with a low dosage and increasing every second day.

Prebiotics

Vitamins

Most of the vitamin B’s are to be avoided. Selenium, magnesium, vitamin a and folic acid,(supplement Vitamin B9) are the top items.

Supplements

The top items are all available on Amazon and other stores:

Herbs And Spices

Diet Style

Specific Foods

One item really jumps out — Burdock Root (Gobo in Japan)- which is available as a supplement if not available as a fresh vegetable. It is high in Inulin (but inulin is much lower, just 81 — so other components may be playing a significant role)

Bottom Line

The diet style is a major contrast with the wife — this creates the frustration of needing almost a double food preparation. To address this issue, I imported both consensus list into Excel, used a VlookUp function to display the values besides each modifier and then identified items that are positive for both and then order by the total of each.

This allows one menu to be used for both of them. Perhaps a little less effective, but likely a lot less frustrating (and thus better compliance). I attached it as an example.

Another ME/CFS Microbiome Follow Up

This is a follow up to a prior post:

This person did his tests using OmbreLabs.com and then transfer the data to biomesight.com. This allows us to use special studies to select bacteria. I am also, as part of my own learning (as well as the readers), going to do some comparison between the OmbreLabs and BiomeSight reports on the same data (i.e. FASTQ files).

I had another sample analyzed at Ombre, and there were already changes in my flora, even in a short amount of time. And they correlate with me feeling a bit better. So thank you. I’m still trying to crunch the data and make sense of the new results, and other than your great Dr. AI, I am using this new feature by Ombre which I find very clear (old sample first, new sample after)

Why Follow Up Posts are important

The first item is simple, does the model and suggestion appear to work. Everything is theoretically computed, not based on clinical practice or clinical studies. The second item is that these posts encourages people to try suggestions, or to do “self-serve” with the site.

Foreword – and Reminder

I am not a licensed medical professional and there are strict laws where I live about “appearing to practice medicine”.  I am safe when it is “academic models” and I keep to the language of science, especially statistics. I am not safe when the explanations have possible overtones of advising a patient instead of presenting data to be evaluated by a medical professional before implementing.

I cannot tell people what they should take or not take. I can inform people items that appears to have better odds of improving their microbiome as a results on numeric calculations. I am a trained experienced statistician with appropriate degrees and professional memberships. All suggestions should be reviewed by your medical professional before starting.

Comparisons between Samples

See this other review of a series of ME/CFS microbiomes from another person that I recently did, ME/CFS Follow Up Microbiome Samples. If you are new to this series, you may wish to review A new specialized selection of suggestions based on statistical significance for symptoms.

First, I do not know the best way to compare samples — what I usually do is put all of the numbers side by side. Special attention needs to be paid to Lab Read Quality. A poorer read quality results in less bacteria being identified.

Lab Quality is a measure of the total number of bacteria counted. The processing of a sample may detect just 30,000 bacteria or 300,000 bacteria. This impacts the number of bacteria detected and also the accuracy of the measures.

Also, Special Studies Percentage Matches is helpful to interpret these numbers better.

CriteriaBS 6/6BS 7/19OL 6/6O 7/19
Lab Read Quality2.15.42.15.4
Bacteria Reported By Lab280497365628
Bacteria Over 99%ile2756
Bacteria Over 95%ile24312724
Bacteria Over 90%ile49584951
Bacteria Under 10%ile17621860
Bacteria Under 5%ile5301028
Bacteria Under 1%ile01317
Rarely Seen 1%0409
Rarely Seen 5%418840
Pathogens15251928
Outside Range from JasonH4472
Outside Range from Medivere17171616
Outside Range from Metagenomics7777
Outside Range from MyBioma991414
Outside Range from Nirvana/CosmosId22222323
Outside Range from XenoGene661111
Outside Lab Range (+/- 1.96SD)6131014
Outside Box-Plot-Whiskers70846461
Outside Kaltoft-Moldrup70113112182
Condition Est. Over 99%ile1100
Condition Est. Over 95%ile2400
Condition Est. Over 90%ile5622
Enzymes Over 99%ile3101315
Enzymes Over 95%ile46326982
Enzymes Over 90%ile9051155411
Enzymes Under 10%ile10221955138
Enzymes Under 5%ile451322267
Enzymes Under 1%ile64752
Compounds Over 99%ile97104126
Compounds Over 95%ile5676385397
Compounds Over 90%ile292313533548
Compounds Under 10%ile72125183248
Compounds Under 5%ile3964109127
Compounds Under 1%ile5211617
Note: I just cut and pasted from “Multiple Samples” tab to Excel to make the above table.

What are the key things seen above (most of the numbers are similar):

  • Sample Quality are the same (expected from using the same FASTQ file)
  • Ombre reports more bacteria
  • Outside Range from Jason Hawrelak show a major improvement with Ombre Labs and no change with BiomeSight
    • As a historic notes, Jason’s numbers were developed using uBiome labs (adding more fuzziness to everything).
    • I view this major improvement per OmbreLab, to indicate the person’s improvement.
  • For Enzymes we see more high production rates and less low production rate with Ombre
    • Remember that enzymes are estimated based on the bacteria reported and is an estimate only.
    • The percentiles for both Ombre and BiomeSight are based on other samples from the same lab (they are NOT intermixed – I removed that earlier this year)
  • For Compounds, we see the same thing!

KEGG Computed Enzymes

I was curious what the top items were. Most of the bacteria are the bacteria only available in Equilibrium and PrescriptAssist, excluding those and looking at the top few — we see similar suggestions (and note E.Coli is not always #1 for ME/CFS people on all tests, just a frequent pattern what dates back to 1998 in some conference papers from Australia).

Special Studies Numbers

Only BiomeSight was used in the Special Studies (because of higher sample population). The person’s rating for each of the symptoms (2 – worst, 0 -none) is also added.

Why did the number increased so much? Look below at Lab Sample quality! We cannot pick a percentage match as being critical — because that percentage depends very much on lab quality!

BS 6/6BS 7/19PersonSymptom
2.15.4Lab Quality
13252 Allergies And Food Sensitivity
13202 Bloating
11242 Brain Fog
9342 Depression
13232 Easily irritated
8222 General Fatigue
11232 High Anxiety
12202 Histamine or Mast Cell issues
13231.5 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS/ME)
11201.5 irritable bowel syndrome
13231.5 ME/CFS with IBS
12301 Alcohol intolerance or Medication sensitivities
10231 Intolerance of Extremes of Heat and Cold
9171 Post-exertional malaise
21301 Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
12281 Unrefreshed sleep
16280 Allergic Rhinitis (Hay Fever)
23280 Autism
12220 Cold Extremities
15200 Constipation
21290 COVID19 (Long Hauler)
26450 Inflammatory bowel disease
8230 ME/CFS without IBS
11210 Poor gut motility
8200 Tinnitus (ringing in ear)

Intrepretation

As cited in the introduction, the person reported feeling better. We also see a major improvement against Jason Hawrelak Criteria for a healthy gut (using Ombre numbers). With both labs we see an increased of rarely seen bacteria — which is open to many interpretations; statistically both increases looks like a move towards a typical gut. 5% of 628 bacteria is 31, we see 40.

Going forward

I am building a consensus report from the items marked 2 above using the Special Studies. The list is similar to other people with ME/CFS. We see 2 E.Coli probiotics (symbioflor 2 e.coli probiotics, colinfant e.coli probiotics) at the top with d-ribose (a sugar used by E.Coli). This is then followed by the earth based probiotics( General Biotics Equilibrium, Prescript Assist (Original Formula), Prescript Assist (2018 Formula)).

These suggestions agrees with the top KEGG suggestions (despite being calculated in a totally different way — one set used Genomics and one set used Clinical Trials)

The rest of the to take probiotics mainly fall into 3 groups: Saccharomyces boulardii (probiotics) bacillus (probiotics), bifidobacterium with bacillus coagulans (probiotics) being the top of this set. As is typical, lactobacillus is usually a negative.

Going over to vitamins, the strongest take is Ferric citrate. We have almost all of the B-vitamins being strong avoidthis is contrary to the conventional treatment wisdom which says vitamin B helps ME/CFS. I discuss this in a prior post and speculate that the reason that Vitamin B is low in blood test ME/CFS is that part of the microbiome dysfunction are bacteria that are greedy for vitamin B, hence it does not get to the body. Conceptually this speculation is testable with a lab reactor using the microbiome from a ME/CFS person.

Starving out bacteria that consumes B-Vitamins may be one path

Bottom Line

“This is too complicated” is what I can hear some people saying. This analysis digs into the nature of the data which is really not needed for most people. It is likely of interest to those treating microbiome dysfunctions as it illustrates many of the challenges in interpreting.

For most people, the process stays the same:

  • Upload the data
  • Try several different ways of generating suggestions
  • Look at the consensus

Why is consensus important? Simple, we have very incomplete data and also have limited accuracy with the microbiome tests. Going the consensus approach is similar to using a Monte Carlo Simulation, an appropriate approach to deal with complex processes with many parameters that are fuzzy.

ME/CFS Follow Up Microbiome Samples

This person has been using microbiome prescription to reduce the symptoms with success and with objective measurements of improved microbiome. His MD is willing to prescribe antibiotics and the top three items (from hundreds possible) are all used by ME/CFS specialist — indicating that the model is in agreement with clinical experience of ME/CFS specialist (a.k.a. Cross-Validation).

This is a follow up to these prior posts:

Why Follow Up Posts are important

The first item is simple, does the model and suggestion appear to work. Everything is theoretically computed. The second item is that encourages people to try suggestions

Foreword – and Reminder

I am not a licensed medical professional and there are strict laws where I live about “appearing to practice medicine”.  I am safe when it is “academic models” and I keep to the language of science, especially statistics. I am not safe when the explanations have possible overtones of advising a patient instead of presenting data to be evaluated by a medical professional before implementing.

I cannot tell people what they should take or not take. I can inform people items that have better odds of improving their microbiome as a results on numeric calculations. I am a trained experienced statistician with appropriate degrees and professional memberships. All suggestions should be reviewed by your medical professional before starting.

Comparisons between Samples

First, I do not know the best way to compare samples — what I usually do is put all of the numbers side by side. Special attention needs to be paid to Lab Read Quality. A poorer read quality results in less bacteria being identified.

Lab Quality is a measure of the total number of bacteria counted. The processing of a sample may detect just 30,000 bacteria or 300,000 bacteria. This impacts the number of bacteria detected and also the accuracy of the measures.

Criteria8/31/202112/3/20213/25/20228/11/2022
Lab Read Quality7.83.66.25.5
Bacteria Reported By Lab461379479383
Bacteria Over 99%ile7533
Bacteria Over 95%ile20241113
Bacteria Over 90%ile32402123
Bacteria Under 10%ile283123237189
Bacteria Under 5%ile22266143107
Bacteria Under 1%ile16194423
Rarely Seen 1%32147
Rarely Seen 5%973314
Pathogens37304431
Outside Range from JasonH4477
Outside Range from Medivere15151515
Outside Range from Metagenomics6688
Outside Range from MyBioma7777
Outside Range from Nirvana/CosmosId18182323
Outside Range from XenoGene5577
Outside Lab Range (+/- 1.96SD)14968
Outside Box-Plot-Whiskers41583833
Outside Kaltoft-Moldrup211100123111
Condition Est. Over 99%ile0000
Condition Est. Over 95%ile4311
Condition Est. Over 90%ile9657
Enzymes Over 99%ile17193010
Enzymes Over 95%ile1058221968
Enzymes Over 90%ile139126296183
Enzymes Under 10%ile783369514645
Enzymes Under 5%ile542186264423
Enzymes Under 1%ile271374986
Compounds Over 99%ile33286247
Compounds Over 95%ile140127231254
Compounds Over 90%ile346307298338
Compounds Under 10%ile310227297308
Compounds Under 5%ile211111224173
Compounds Under 1%ile132476765

The next table is also very dependent of Lab Read Quality. The apparent improvement on 12/3/2021 is likely artificial because the counts are low due to low read quality.

8/31/202112/3/20213/25/20228/11/2022
PercentileGenusGenusGenusGenus
0 – 973245151
10-1915183224
20 – 2912131812
30 – 39410914
40 – 496893
50 – 594872
60 – 694493
70 – 79710710
80 – 897485
90 – 99141888
8/31/202112/3/20213/25/20228/11/2022
PercentileSpeciesSpeciesSpeciesSpecies
0 – 987295758
10-1924212924
20 – 2914152116
30 – 3910161414
40 – 4926143
50 – 591291710
60 – 69910107
70 – 7989147
80 – 8971554
90 – 991113109

So how to interpret this wall of numbers? People can cherry-pick the numbers to say improvement or no improvement. The difference of lab read quality is a big factor because they impact the count for most of the items above. The Outside Box-Plot-Whiskers numbers show continued improvement. In short, the changes shown were less than I was hoping to see.

There is one more method of comparison — using special studies. In this case we see the average matches. Doing a little math, the expected drop of percentage due to lab quality size between 8/31/2021 and 8/11/2022 is a 10% drop. Those that exceeded 20% are color with 😊 below. Nothing became 10% worse. Note that the 😊 also agrees with comparing to 3/25/2022 (the prior sample). Other items remained unchanged. Items reported by this person are 😧 – Strong issue, 😟 – a bit of an issue

Study8/31/202112/3/20213/25/20228/11/2022Average
Inflammatory bowel disease4932474743.8
Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) 😟51294834😊40.5
Allergic Rhinitis (Hay Fever) 😧 4127454138.5
Autism45344427😊37.5
COVID19 (Long Hauler)40244329😊34.0
Irritable bowel syndrome 😟40224430😊34.0
Alcohol intolerance or Medication sensitivities43233929😊33.5
Histamine or Mast Cell issues 😧 44174324😊32.0
Post-exertional malaise 😧 36234029😊32.0
ME/CFS without IBS 😟39223630😊31.8
Poor gut motility42214024😊31.8
Brain Fog 😧 3723333331.5
Depression3227323431.3
Allergies And Food Sensitivity 😧 38233625😊30.5
Cold Extremities 😧 42233322😊30.0
Intolerance of Extremes of Heat and Cold 😟38163927😊30.0
ME/CFS with IBS 😟3621362730.0
Bloating 😧 37223426😊29.8
General Fatigue 😧 3420313429.8
Unrefreshed sleep3122362829.3
Constipation37212925😊28.0
High Anxiety 😟3317332928.0
Easily irritated 😟32163423😊26.3
Tinnitus (ringing in ear) 😟2415292222.5
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS/ME) 😧 2521202322.3
Average37.822.437.028.931.5
Lab Quality7.83.66.25.5

What is my conclusion? Most of the measures above deteriorates into noise with the exception of data from Special Studies, where we seen improvement in many measures, but not all. In one real statistical sense this makes sense: many are based on common sense and the ones showing clear improvement on statistical significance.

Going Forward

For most of my prior posts used the logical reasoning and clinical studies (which used different labs and software than the samples that I was looking at). With the special studies, we have upped our game (potentially) – the bacteria deemed significant were determined by the same lab and software of our sample, plus the study sizes was much larger than published clinical studies — hence better detection.

To build the consensus I will use the special studies, I filtered to reported issues and high percentage of matches, namely:

Remember that most of the special studies found that infrequent bacteria with a low value was what was statistically significant. This is turning the usual logic on it’s head. As I state, this is all experimental but based on studies and statistics.

The top suggestions are below

Antibiotics

As expected, most antibiotics and prescription drugs are to be avoided. A few with positive impact includes:

In terms of generic suggestions, rifaximin (antibiotic)s is by far the top antibiotics, cited here on Health Rising: Rifaxamin – citing use by Dr. Teitelbaum, Dr. Peterson, De De Meirleir and Dr. Myhill (all ME/CFS specialists).

In short, all of the top suggested antibiotics are applicable. My personal approach would be do all three of them in a pulse manner a la Jadin, 10 days on, 20 days off and then move to the next one.

Both above and generic suggestions have proton-pump inhibitors (prescription) being the top choice for other prescription drugs.

Probiotics

The top probiotics list have the usual dilemma: both e.coli probiotics and lactobacillus probiotics. It’s a dilemma because they tend to be hostile to each other. My typical rotation resolution would be 2 weeks of each and then move to the next:

Probiotics to take

I should note that some are strong to be avoided (watch out for mixtures!!!)

Probiotics to Avoid

KEGG Suggestions

The KEGG suggestions top items were the bacteria found in Equilibrium and Prescription Assist, except for the top choice, Escherichia coli. A probiotic suggested by Dr. Myhill, a ME/CFS specialist in the UK. The next common conventional items are

Bottom Line

The suggestions above were done solely from special studies. The key question is are they reasonable? I would say yes based on the antibiotics suggestions — all of them have been reported to help ME/CFS patients. We also have agreement between KEGG probiotics and these suggestions.

There is a potential conceptual symmetry between the two approaches (working off extremes and using special studies that are often dealing with rare low bacteria). Bacteria influences each other in very complex ways.

The full list of suggestions is available above.

A Long COVID Microbiome Analysis

I am hoping this will be a model for other Long COVID people to start the recovery process. This person used Biomesight. Those results allow the data from special studies to be used on his microbiome sample.

A word of warning, tests like GI-MAPS will not report on most of the bacteria found to be low in the Special Studies — you need much more detail reports!

Suggested Parallel Reading: CFS Patient after COVID using the Special Studies Results

Foreword – and Reminder

I am not a licensed medical professional and there are strict laws where I live about “appearing to practice medicine”.  I am safe when it is “academic models” and I keep to the language of science, especially statistics. I am not safe when the explanations have possible overtones of advising a patient instead of presenting data to be evaluated by a medical professional before implementing.

I cannot tell people what they should take or not take. I can inform people items that have better odds of improving their microbiome as a results on numeric calculations. I am a trained experienced statistician with appropriate degrees and professional memberships. All suggestions should be reviewed by your medical professional before starting.

Backstory

COVID in February 2021. 37M at the time, athletic/fit. Crossfit x 3 a week, playing football weekly Only mild gastritis prior to COVID. No other health issues. Moderate severity Covid, lots of symptoms.

And then Long COVID and CFS/ME type of symptoms mostly fatigue, PEM and GI problems (pain, food intolerance, bloating..etc) I’d say it’s a moderate/mild case of CFS/ME. But after 18 months still not back to previous levels, can’t walk too long otherwise i crash. I’d say i am around 75%.

High Level Overview

Looking at Health Indication, we find no significant medical conditions flagged (consistent with prior life style). There is one bacteria of potential concern: Prevotella copri, accounting for a whooping 56% of the microbiome! It is interesting that this was also seen in another recent review, see CFS Patient after COVID using the Special Studies Results. In terms of Dr. Jason Hawrelak Recommendations – he’s at the 99.7%ile — extremely healthy!

imbalance with a lot of different low count bacteria

Using Special Studies

Interpreting the updated table shown below can get a little complicated (i.e. not naively simple) see Special Studies Percentage Matches for details

We are going to use the 7 items below – items matching his reported issues. In an independent study that I did, I found that the pattern dims over time as the microbiome evolves. His person is 20 months post-COVID.

  • COVID19 (Long Hauler)
  • Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)
  • ME/CFS with IBS
  • Inflammatory bowel disease
  • Post-exertional malaise
  • General Fatigue
  • Bloating

The Prevotella copri concerns me because it’s the mastodon in the room (bigger than an elephant, and a bit hairier!). This specific bacteria is NOT typical for long COVID, but I suspect many will find one or another tyrant to dominate in excess in the face of massive minority representation– hence check for high bacteria counts with high percentile. It was also high in the study cited above, CFS Patient after COVID using the Special Studies Results. I went thru the My Biome View to tag the ones that have a high percentile with with a large count. The purpose is to inhibit these, so they will not inhibit everything else.

The results were almost the opposite of the consensus below for B-Vitamins. It presents a dilemma, a choice that needs to be made. At the moment, I favor the working from the special studies approach (pending feedback from people who tried it). Conceptually, it is a more probable approach — incidentally, it is not the approach usually done (and those approaches, historically, have had very little success to date).

The Consensus

I did not want to toss in any more sets of suggestions. From the start we saw the dominate item in his microbiome was undergrowth of a multitude of bacteria and the domination of one — we have gotten what helped the weak and inhibits the strong.

I found the avoids to be an interesting combination, no red meat and no chicken (matching Reduced choline on the to take) .

Recommended Probiotics
The Avoid List

We see that something like a B-Complex should be avoided. I discuss this issue more in the other blog post that I cited above.

Computed Probiotics from KEGG Enzymes

This produced a few items that are reasonably easy to get as single species probiotics. Remember, these are calculated by a totally different mechanism – using the genes of the bacteria in your microbiome and the genes in these bacteria. The top items were:

My basic take-away are using just 3 probiotics in weekly or fortnight rotations (one at a time)

If one of the above cannot be obtained, I would suggest using Clostridium butyricum or Lactobacillus plantarum as the third element in the rotation.

Supplements suggested by KEGG

Although this is using an old algorithm that I have not updated, the list is below.

  • alpha-galactosidase (Enzyme) – Percentile: 11
  • Amylase (Enzyme) – Percentile: 8 – On Consensus: Take
  • beta-alanine – Percentile: 2 – On Consensus: Take
  • Glycine – Percentile: 4 – – On Consensus: Minor avoid
  • iron – Percentile: 7 – On Consensus: Take
  • L-Cysteine – Percentile: 3 – On Consensus: Major avoid
  • L-glutamine – Percentile: 14 – On Consensus: Major avoid
  • L-Histidine – Percentile: 12 – On Consensus: Take
  • L-methionine – Percentile: 10 – On Consensus: Major avoid
  • L-Serine – Percentile: 11 – On Consensus: Take
  • L-Threonine – Percentile: 16
  • magnesium – Percentile: 4 – On Consensus: Take
  • NADH – Percentile: 4
  • Selenocysteine – Percentile: 4
  • zinc – Percentile: 16 – On Consensus: Take

Remember we are dealing with fuzzy data, my usual rule is do positive stuff where there is universal agreement, avoid stuff that are negative or where there are contradictions (I do like playing dice with my health).

Bottom Line

Because of the special studies and this person using the appropriate lab, this was actually a simple analysis to do. The traditional analysis showed “nothing wrong”, a familiar restrain from medical professionals to Long COVID patients. Our special studies and distribution by percentile showed things are wrong. Having 56% of the bacteria being Prevotella copri is saying something is very wrong.

I often try to use analogy of human populations to explain what I see. In this case, we have dozens of small tribes battling each other allowing a dominating force to seize most of the space. There are many historic examples, often under the name of “Divide and Conquer”.

In this example, the high number of low representation bacteria we saw in the overview matched the high number of low number of bacteria we observed in our special studies.

After two months of trying the suggestions, I hope this reader will do a new sample to see how well things shift from these suggestions.

Questions

Q: “Excuse me if I’m missing something but is there any reason why we are focusing on only Commensals,  Prevotella, why not on Probiotics at all?  I understand it’s way above the range, and it’d like to keep it low ideally, but what about the rest of Microbiome?”

A1: First “the rest of the microbiome” issue – the obvious response is a simple “If it is not broken, don’t fix it”. The above analysis used over 100 different bacteria. Our focus is on the bacteria where there is significant statistically evidence that they are connected to Long COVID. The numbers above are general health. As cited above, with Dr. Jason Hawrelak General Health Recommendations you are better than 99.7% of people. There is a huge variation in recommended ranges coming from labs and specialists — who are you going to rely upon? I am a statistician and I follow the numbers (and the z-scores), in other words, not working off opinion based largely on treating people who do not have Long COVID. I am NOT focusing on commensals, I am focusing on what was shown to be statistically significant.

A2: “why not on Probiotics at all” — Excuse me, I name four key probiotics: Escherichia coli (Mutaflor or Symbioflor-2 are retail products), Bacillus subtilis et al (microbiome labs/ megasporebiotic looks like a good commercial choice), Akkermansia muciniphila (Pendulum) and Clostridium butyricum (miyarisan). You will find alternative brands for some using the probiotic page.


If you mean bifidobacterium and lactobacillus probiotics — they are not indicated in general, in fact, they often appear in the to-avoid list. Example, Long COVID often has brain fog, see this study: Brain fogginess, gas and bloating: a link between SIBO, probiotics and metabolic acidosis [2018] which calls out those two as contributors.

Comment: To answer your question, I’ve had lots of symptoms in the beginning, but for now only mild fatigue and PEM plus gut issues, so I’d say definite ME/CFS with IBS, some Rhinitis, Alcohol intolerance and Long hauling.

Special Studies Percentage Matches

I have recently changed the display below to show the percentage of matched instead of just the number of bacteria matches (the number will appear if you hover over the link as a tool tip). The numbers may be prone to misinterpretation, hence this technical page.

The candidate bacteria comes from special studies — it is important to note that often these bacteria are rarely seen, so having a 100% match is effectively impossible. We also have the dilemma of a single sample versus a collection of samples.

The rule that I am using is simple, a match must:

  • Have the bacteria (if it is missing, it is not deemed a match)
  • The bacteria count must be either:
    • below the study mean – 3 standard deviations of the mean if the study found it to be a low mean value against the reference population
    • above the study mean + 3 standard deviations of the mean if the study found it to be a high mean value against the reference population

Naively, assuming a normal distribution, the odds of a single match is around 1%, so with 200 items to check, we would expect 1% for a random person.

You should NOT view these as predictive, for example both ME/CFS with IBS and ME/CFS without IBS are on the list with the same value!!! Instead, your existing condition(s) should be used to select only the ones that apply to you. You could arbitrarily do all of the high ones — I do have a concern about that approach, you are creating noise that may make suggestions less effective.

One last item is the quality of the read (i.e. how many bacteria was actually detected in the sample). Since we are dealing with rare bacteria, bacteria (that are actually there) may not be detected and thus you have a lower percentage match. So do not view the percentage as absolute. but relative to others in the sample.

Special Studies: General Fatigue

This is a common symptom for many people. This is reported often in samples, and thus being examined if it reaches our threshold for inclusion as defined in A new specialized selection of suggestions links. It does. We are not being specific about the type of fatigue. Each person use their own subject definition of fatigue, thus we do not expect strong statistical associations (and do not get it!)

Study Populations:

I include values for Special Studies: General ME/CFS below

SymptomReferenceStudy
General Fatigue1095134
  • Bacteria Detected with z-score > 2.6: found 158 items, highest value was 5.3 (ME/CFS was 6.6)
  • Enzymes Detected with z-score > 2.6: found 410 items, highest value was 6.0 (ME/CFS was 4.5)
  • Compound Detected with z-score > 2.6: found 67 items, highest values was -4/4 (ME/CFS was 3.1)

So we have a weaker bacteria signature but stronger enzymes and compound signature than ME/CFS. Many people marking one will mark the other… so get your sodium chloride crystals out!

Interesting Significant Bacteria

All bacteria found significant had too low levels. The list of those with a z-score over 5 is small. Low Prevotella copri and Escherichia coli which appears on special studies on many co-morbid symptoms. The good news, is that there is work ongoing to produce a prevotella copri probiotic and several Escherichia coli probiotics are available.

We do see a few overgrowth These are seen only in some subsets.

BacteriaReference MeanStudyZ-Score
Lactiplantibacillus pentosus (species)114225.3
Prevotella copri (species)68098218645.2
Gammaproteobacteria (class)1438259445.2
Veillonella (genus)402223245.1
Escherichia coli (species)8291965

Interesting Enzymes

Most enzymes found significant had too low levels. A few were higher (12 of 410), which are listed in a second table below

EnzymeReference MeanStudy MeanZ-Score
[cysteine desulfurase]-S-sulfanyl-L-cysteine:[molybdopterin-synthase sulfur-carrier protein]-Gly-Gly sulfurtransferase (2.8.1.11)540724206
3-(cis-5,6-dihydroxycyclohexa-1,3-dien-1-yl)propanoate:NAD+ oxidoreductase (1.3.1.87)5971445.5
3-phenylpropanoate,NADH:oxygen oxidoreductase (2,3-hydroxylating) (1.14.12.19)6111485.5
deoxyribocyclobutadipyrimidine pyrimidine-lyase (4.1.99.3)431116685.5
tRNA-uridine65 uracil mutase (5.4.99.26)420117335.4
S-adenosyl-L-methionine:23S rRNA (guanine2069-N7)-methyltransferase (2.1.1.264)585030675.3
propanoyl-CoA:oxaloacetate C-propanoyltransferase (thioester-hydrolysing, 1-carboxyethyl-forming) (2.3.3.5)15755015.2
N4-acetylcytidine amidohydrolase (3.5.1.135)308312795.2
ATP:D-tagatose 6-phosphotransferase (2.7.1.101)4151125.1
(2S,3R)-3-hydroxybutane-1,2,3-tricarboxylate pyruvate-lyase (succinate-forming) (4.1.3.30)15244845.1
acyl-CoA:sn-glycerol-3-phosphate 1-O-acyltransferase (2.3.1.15)338514385.1
S-adenosyl-L-methionine:tRNA (cytidine32/uridine32-2′-O)-methyltransferase (2.1.1.200)343713905.1
2-(glutathione-S-yl)-hydroquinone:glutathione oxidoreductase (1.8.5.7)326310995.1
galactitol-1-phosphate:NAD+ oxidoreductase (1.1.1.251)10422925
acetyl-CoA:[elongator tRNAMet]-cytidine34 N4-acetyltransferase (ATP-hydrolysing) (2.3.1.193)343013875
S-adenosyl-L-methionine:23S rRNA (uracil747-C5)-methyltransferase (2.1.1.189)337913855
ATP phosphohydrolase (ABC-type, thiamine-importing) (7.6.2.15)363714545
[50S ribosomal protein L16]-L-Arg81,2-oxoglutarate:oxygen oxidoreductase (3R-hydroxylating) (1.14.11.47)344814405
7,8-dihydroneopterin 3′-triphosphate diphosphohydrolase (3.6.1.67)371916345
ATP:N-acetyl-D-glucosamine 6-phosphotransferase (2.7.1.59)338313695
Most Significant (all LOW)
EnzymeReference MeanStudy MeanZ-Score
CTP:N,N’-diacetyllegionaminate cytidylyltransferase (2.7.7.82)5956876504-2.9
1-phosphatidyl-1D-myo-inositol:a very-long-chain (2’R)-2′-hydroxy-phytoceramide phosphoinositoltransferase (2.7.1.227)3914450749-2.9
1,5-anhydro-D-mannitol:NADP+ oxidoreductase (1.1.1.292)6501081029-2.9
alginate oligosaccharide 4-deoxy-alpha-L-erythro-hex-4-enopyranuronate-(1->4)-hexananopyranuronate lyase (4.2.2.26)7972599196-2.8
phosphatidylglycerophosphate phosphohydrolase (3.1.3.27)87820105463-2.7
chondroitin-sulfate-ABC endolyase (4.2.2.20)7177388107-2.7
chondroitin-sulfate-ABC exolyase (4.2.2.21)7177388107-2.7
arabinogalactan 4-beta-D-galactanohydrolase (3.2.1.89)107701128121-2.7
cephalosporin-C acetylhydrolase (3.1.1.41)86153104494-2.7
UDP-N-acetyl-alpha-D-glucosamine 4-epimerase (5.1.3.7)83349100761-2.6
N-sulfo-D-glucosamine sulfohydrolase (3.10.1.1)5963473685-2.6
6-alpha-D-glucan 6-glucanohydrolase (3.2.1.11)6403578529-2.6
GDP-alpha-D-mannose:2-O-alpha-D-mannosyl-1-phosphatidyl-1D-myo-inositol 6-alpha-D-mannosyltransferase (configuration-retaining) (2.4.1.346)4374455284-2.6
The enzymes that are in excess.

Interesting Compound

Unlike most of the special studies we have many compounds that are significant. I have listed the high and low in separate tables below. Spot checking most of these found no useful information. For Maltodextrin which becomes  glucose would fit with fatigue — i.e. low sugar being produced.

Of the low items, the following appear to be available as supplements and potentially could help with fatigue

NamesZ-Score
beta-D-Ribofuranose (C16639)4
1,2-Diacyl-3-alpha-D-glucosyl-sn-glycerol (C06364)3.8
Coproporphyrin III (C05770)3.3
Cys-Gly (C01419)3.2
Deoxyinosine (C05512)3.2
UDP-N-acetyl-alpha-D-glucosamine 3′-phosphate (C20245)3.2
Inosine (C00294)3.1
Carboxylate (C00060)3.1
Thymine (C00178)2.9
3-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)pyruvate (C01179)2.9
Acetoacetyl-CoA (C00332)2.8
beta-D-Galactosyl-(1->3)-N-acetyl-D-galactosamine (C07278)2.8
Prokaryotic ubiquitin-like protein (C21177)2.8
dTDP (C00363)2.7
tRNA with a 3′ CCA end (C19085)2.7
Cytosine (C00380)2.7
alpha-D-Aldose 1-phosphate (C00991)2.7
5′-O-Phosphonoadenylyl-(3′->5′)-adenosine (C22092)2.7
Hexadecanoic acid (C00249)2.6
Maltodextrin (C01935)2.6
Hydroquinone (C15603)2.6
Chemical that have low production
NamesZ-Score
beta-D-Ribopyranose (C08353)-4
Chitobiose (C01674)-3.6
Deoxyadenosine (C00559)-3.5
Glutaredoxin (C07292)-3
tRNA(Leu) (C01645)-3
Lacto-N-biose (C06372)-3
alpha-D-Glucosamine 1-phosphate (C06156)-3
Pantetheine 4′-phosphate (C01134)-2.9
UDP-N-acetylmuramate (C01050)-2.9
L-Formylkynurenine (C02700)-2.9
tRNA uridine (C00868)-2.9
(S)-3-Hydroxybutanoyl-CoA (C01144)-2.9
Amino acid (C00045)-2.8
1,2-Diacyl-sn-glycerol (C00641)-2.8
L-Glutamate 5-semialdehyde (C01165)-2.8
Taurine (C00245)-2.8
tRNA with a 3′ cytidine (C19078)-2.8
tRNA precursor (C02211)-2.8
Sucrose (C00089)-2.8
UTP (C00075)-2.8
beta-D-Glucose 1-phosphate (C00663)-2.8
UDP-N-acetylmuramoyl-L-alanyl-gamma-D-glutamyl-L-lysine (C05892)-2.7
tRNA(Lys) (C01646)-2.7
L-Threonine (C00188)-2.7
2-Succinylbenzoate (C02730)-2.7
Oxygen (C00007)-2.7
UDP-sugar (C05227)-2.7
Phenyl acetate (C15583)-2.7
Isopentenyl diphosphate (C00129)-2.7
Cyclomaltodextrin (C00973)-2.7
Chemical that have high production

Similarly, items that are too high are likely to be avoided, including the following

  • Sucrose
  • Taurine
  • Threonine

All of these suggestions are theoretical based in the model. Some literature to consider that appears to confirm the above (a.k.a. cross-validation)

Bottom Line

II was not expecting much from this special study. I was pleased to see some suggestions being generated that can be implemented (or soon will be)

In looking at the suggestions below, remember we are using two very different models. Above we use KEGG data to identify what the bacteria are producing (the items going to the farmer’s market). Below, we use what has been reported to influence the population of the bacteria that we are too low in (i.e. “Fertilizer”)

Pro forma Suggestions

Special Study: Poor gut motility

This is a common symptom for many people. This is reported often in samples, and thus being examined if it reaches our threshold for inclusion as defined in A new specialized selection of suggestions links. It does.

  • “Motility” is a term used to describe the contraction of the muscles that mix and propel contents in the gastrointestinal (GI) tract. [Src] thus it has similarity to constipation (See Special Studies: Constipation)
  • “An excess of intracolonic saturated long-chain fatty acids (SLCFAs) was associated with enhanced bowel motility in NMS rats. Heptadecanoic acid (C17:0) and stearic acid (C18:0), as the most abundant odd- and even-numbered carbon SLCFAs in the colon lumen, can promote rat colonic muscle contraction and increase stool frequency” [2018]

Study Populations:

SymptomReferenceStudy
Poor gut motility117155
  • Bacteria Detected with z-score > 2.6: found 170 items, highest z-score value was 8.8
  • Enzymes Detected with z-score > 2.6: found 336 items, highest z-score value was 6.4
  • Compound Detected with z-score > 2.6: found No items

Interesting Significant Bacteria

All bacteria that was found significant are too low. This is a common pattern for most of the special studies and really challenge the internet myth of the cause being too many bad bacteria. One bacteria really stands out — and there is ongoing work on making this one bacteria, Prevotella copri , available as a probiotics!

BacteriaReference MeanStudyZ-Score
Prevotella copri (species)6456854988.8
Sutterella stercoricanis (species)30984107.5
Prevotella paludivivens (species)144267.1
Prevotella (genus)72220205876.2
Alkalibacterium (genus)102216
Prevotellaceae (family)79801325495.2
Leptospiraceae (family)67245.2
Leptospira (genus)67245.2
Leptospirales (order)67245.2
Leptospira licerasiae (species)67245.2
Ruminiclostridium (genus)10003485.1
Phocaeicola sartorii (species)8073755.1
  • “For example, abundances of LactobacillusPrevotella and Alistipes spp. are significantly decreased in patients with constipation ” [2018]

Interesting Enzymes

Most of the enzymes are too low, however a few are too high which is not the usual pattern seen in other of these special studies.

S-methyl-5′-thioadenosine:phosphate S-methyl-5-thio-alpha-D-ribosyl-transferase (2.4.2.28)374013736.4
n/a (3.4.14.13)12702485.9
D-alanine:2-oxoglutarate aminotransferase (2.6.1.21)26879595.9
1-aminocyclopropane-1-carboxylate aminohydrolase (isomerizing) (3.5.99.7)14283375.9
succinyl-CoA:3-oxo-acid CoA-transferase (2.8.3.5)13072915.8
N-acyl-D-amino acid amidohydrolase (3.5.1.81)17773965.8
4-hydroxyphenylpyruvate:oxygen oxidoreductase (hydroxylating, decarboxylating) (1.13.11.27)14462255.6
carotenoid beta-end group lyase (ring-opening) (5.5.1.19)14501345.6
ATP:L-threonine O3-phosphotransferase (2.7.1.177)23204865.6
n/a (3.4.15.6)15853915.6
hydrogen-sulfide:flavocytochrome c oxidoreductase (1.8.2.3)11641085.5
15-cis-phytoene:acceptor oxidoreductase (lycopene-forming) (1.3.99.31)22339025.5
all-trans-zeta-carotene:acceptor oxidoreductase (1.3.99.26)22339025.5
15-cis-phytoene:acceptor oxidoreductase (zeta-carotene-forming) (1.3.99.29)22339025.5
15-cis-phytoene:acceptor oxidoreductase (neurosporene-forming) (1.3.99.28)22339025.5
[SoxY protein]-S-sulfosulfanyl-L-cysteine sulfohydrolase (3.1.6.20)11831065.5
CTP:5,7-diacetamido-3,5,7,9-tetradeoxy-L-glycero-alpha-L-manno-nonulosonic acid cytidylyltransferase (2.7.7.81)11391195.5
medium-chain acyl-CoA:electron-transfer flavoprotein 2,3-oxidoreductase (1.3.8.7)13003255.4
2-carboxy-2,5-dihydro-5-oxofuran-2-acetate lyase (ring-opening) (5.5.1.2)13321985.3
sulfite:oxygen oxidoreductase (1.8.3.1)11991075.3
alkane,reduced-rubredoxin:oxygen 1-oxidoreductase (1.14.15.3)10871075.3
4-hydroxybenzoate,NADPH:oxygen oxidoreductase (3-hydroxylating) (1.14.13.2)13192035.2
protocatechuate:oxygen 3,4-oxidoreductase (ring-opening) (1.13.11.3)13191995.2
dihydro-NAD(P):oxygen oxidoreductase (H2O2-forming) (1.6.3.5)12901455.2
glutaryl-CoA:electron-transfer flavoprotein 2,3-oxidoreductase (decarboxylating) (1.3.8.6)12572585.2
3-methylcrotonoyl-CoA:carbon-dioxide ligase (ADP-forming) (6.4.1.4)11142055.1
N-acyl-L-homoserine-lactone amidohydrolase (3.5.1.97)10441265.1
4a-hydroxytetrahydrobiopterin hydro-lyase (6,7-dihydrobiopterin-forming) (4.2.1.96)13142235.1
Too Low Enzymes

Too High Enzymes

EnzymeReference MeanStudy MeanZ-Score
L-leucyl-tRNALeu:[protein] N-terminal L-lysine/L-arginine leucyltransferase (2.3.2.6)130285170931-2.9
polyphosphate phosphohydrolase (3.6.1.11)171217211918-2.8
guanosine-5′-triphosphate-3′-diphosphate 5′-phosphohydrolase (3.6.1.40)171217211918-2.8
1-deoxy-D-xylulose 5-phosphate:thiol sulfurtransferase (2.8.1.10)198195242062-2.7
(R)-2-carboxy-2,5-dihydro-5-oxofuran-2-acetate carboxy-lyase (4,5-dihydro-5-oxofuran-2-acetate-forming) (4.1.1.44)199133242528-2.7
ATP phosphohydrolase (P-type, Ca2+-transporting) (7.2.2.10)234154280063-2.7
acetyl-CoA:maltose O-acetyltransferase (2.3.1.79)206724252634-2.7
3-methylbut-3-en-1-yl-diphosphate:ferredoxin oxidoreductase (1.17.7.4)239452285669-2.7
L-aspartate:tRNAAsp ligase (AMP-forming) (6.1.1.12)244534289637-2.6
5,10-methylenetetrahydrofolate:dUMP C-methyltransferase (2.1.1.45)245078290417-2.6
D-arabinose aldose-ketose-isomerase (5.3.1.3)188214231505-2.6
L-fucose aldose-ketose-isomerase (5.3.1.25)188214231505-2.6
5,6,7,8-tetrahydrofolate:NADP+ oxidoreductase (1.5.1.3)247230291626-2.6

Bottom Line

While poor gut motility is often assumed to be due too many of some bacteria, the evidence suggestions that not enough is the more likely cause. There appears to be no simple model or answer.

Prevotella copri will hopefully be available as a probiotic in a few year. There are two natural sources for P.Copri : Beer and Sauerkraut [2020], which may be an experiment for those that are prone to poor gut motility..

  • “This species is more prevalent in non-Western populations likely due to its association with high fibre low fat diets” [2022]
  • “Across all ethnicities, only coffee consumption was associated with an increased Prevotella relative abundance ” [2022]
  • “Ancient stool samples suggest Westernization leads to P. copri underrepresentation” [2019]
The Prevotella copri Complex Comprises Four Distinct Clades Underrepresented in Westernized Populations [2019]

The real bottom line is changing diet significantly. Consider some Indian style of food as part of supper every day, some examples ready to heat are here.

https://microbiomeprescription.com/Library/CitizenScience

It should be noted that the B-Vitamins below are likely in the avoid list because they are usually provided thru meat in traditional diet.

Proforma Suggestions

Cure Root Caus-icitis

This is a devastating mental infection of many people suffering severe ongoing health issues. The mythology is simple “Fix the root cause, and you will get better!” For acute, send yourself to the hospital, diseases this may be true, but there is another class of conditions where it is false.

Example, you developed rickets and developed skeletal deformities such as:

  • Bowed legs or knock knees
  • Thickened wrists and ankles
  • Breastbone projection.

We know the root cause, not sufficient vitamin D. Will taking vitamin-D correct the skeletal deformities? No. Treatment will slow progression. You have lung cancer because you are a heavy smoker, will stop smoking cure lung cancer? You have Long COVID, ah the cure is to always wear a N95 mask?

Yes There was a Cause likely, but…

For items dealing with the microbiome, the cause starts a microbiome cascade that keeps going onwards. Think of a land slide, things are changed. There are side-effects like impact on fish or even getting into towns. So people start trying to cure the landslide by clearing the river or building a new road or…. and those attempt at curing, could cause more problems.

The best example that is well documented is the Bergen’s Giardia Infection. The root cause was Giardia infection. They eliminated the giardia — but the IBS, ME/CFS issues remained. They very well documented the root cause and dealt with it. No magical recovery.

Going Forward

I view many conditions as being supported (in a few cases totally caused) by the microbiome. Finding the root cause is very very unlikely to impact treatment and the way back to health. Focus on what is contributing to your current state and not ancient history!

I just banned someone called Ross Walter

Why? he has twice attacked me ad hominem (i.e. an attack on the person). I have made no secret that I am a high functioning ASD person (functioning in terms of mathematics), and that I did not learn to speak or form sentences until I was 9 y.o. I know that items like grammar are a great weakness. To attack a person with a recognized disability, for a disability is neither polite nor acceptable.
I apologize if my grammar is not perfect — my blog is not intended to be a literary masterpiece, but to convey data!