A reader wrote asked about apparent inconsistencies in suggestions. That is a very valid request.
What’s the difference between ‘General suggestions’ on the odds ratio suggestions page and ‘Probiotic suggestions’? The results seem almost unrelated. Two examples: in my results, Bifidobacterium breve is in the ‘General suggestions’ listed as having a negative impact, yet in ‘Probiotic suggestions’ it has a highly positive impact, is even mentioned as the second best probiotic (see image down below)! The one there mentioned as the top probiotic, Enterococcus faecalis, is in my ‘General suggestions’ hardly a suggestion, having barely any positive impact (0.87, with many probiotics having more impact).
Clinical Studies Based versus Modelled Probiotics
When I saw an opportunity to model the impact of probiotics instead of relying on published studies, I jumped at the opportunity. The key reasons are below:
- Clinical studies often given contradictory results on the impact of a probiotic on other bacteria.
- There are many reasons that this would occur naturally:
- The studies were in the context of an existing condition (thus altered microbiome to start with)
- The studies used different reference libraries to determine bacteria (See Nightmare post)
- The studies usually gives a simple increase or decrease.
- Example: for Pseudomonas, we have 2 studies saying it is increased and 2 studies saying it is decreased by B. subtilis
- There are many reasons that this would occur naturally:
- Modelled uses:
- Healthy individuals for modelling (thus no existing conditions!)
- The same reference library for all samples
- The model gives a numeric estimate of how much changes is expected (R2)
What is the practical implementation? Looking at the differences below (The full tables are bottom) we see that the model shows impact on a magnitude more of different bacteria.
- In theory, over time, with enough studies on healthy individual with sufficient size of each study, there will likely be convergence of the numbers. Studies are time consuming to do — so these results are likely not likely to be fully available until the next millenium.
| Probiotic | Model: Different Bacteria impacted | Studies: Different Bacteria impacted |
| Bacillus pumilus | 1272 | 18 |
| Aspergillus oryzae | 1093 | 40 |
| Lactobacillus kefiranofaciens | 1065 | 42 |
| Enterococcus faecium | 1002 | 99 |
| Lentilactobacillus kefiri | 841 | 26 |
| Bacillus licheniformis | 835 | 77 |
| Faecalibacterium prausnitzii | 671 | 16 |
| Debaryomyces hansenii | 613 | 8 |
| Blautia wexlerae | 599 | 4 |
| Lentilactobacillus buchneri | 539 | 10 |
| Lactobacillus jensenii | 491 | 11 |
| Bacteroides uniformis | 481 | 5 |
| Lactiplantibacillus argentoratensis | 446 | 9 |
| Akkermansia muciniphila | 474 | 43 |
| Heyndrickxia coagulans | 499 | 72 |
| Lactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. bulgaricus | 449 | 34 |
| Blautia hansenii | 342 | 1 |
| Parabacteroides goldsteinii | 338 | 2 |
| Parabacteroides distasonis | 310 | 1 |
| Lactococcus lactis | 330 | 36 |
| Lactobacillus acidophilus | 381 | 89 |
| Latilactobacillus sakei | 296 | 34 |
| Bifidobacterium animalis subsp. lactis | 261 | 81 |
| Pediococcus | 214 | 46 |
| Pediococcus pentosaceus | 211 | 43 |
| Shouchella clausii | 173 | 15 |
| Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis bv. diacetylactis | 158 | 8 |
| Lactobacillus helveticus | 201 | 61 |
| Escherichia coli | 180 | 42 |
| Lactobacillus johnsonii | 179 | 43 |
| Levilactobacillus brevis | 157 | 23 |
| Streptococcus thermophilus | 178 | 69 |
| Ligilactobacillus salivarius | 171 | 62 |
| Lacticaseibacillus casei | 202 | 112 |
| Limosilactobacillus reuteri | 198 | 116 |
| Bifidobacterium adolescentis | 103 | 38 |
| Lactiplantibacillus pentosus | 91 | 26 |
The Personal Decision to be made
Microbiome Prescription generates suggestions using both methods. There is no mechanism to determine which is better. Personally, I prefer the model because there is a lot more data available and the data is quantitative and not a binary of (increase/decrease).
The model assumes this logic:
- If you take a (living) probiotic, then the amount in your microbiome will increase and all of the cascading impacts of this increase will likely match the impact of healthy individuals who naturally have more of that bacteria.
Why Contradictions?
There are massive interactions occurring. If you ignore (or have no data) on some impacts, then you can easily go very off course.
Consider Lactobacillus brevis: Assuming that 10% of your bacteria are out of wack, the recommendation with studies would be based on just 2 bacteria (10% of 23). Recommendations from the model would use around 16 bacteria (10% of 157). In short, more factors would be considered.
Appendix: Full Tables
| Probiotics | Different Bacteria Impacted according to studies |
| Lactiplantibacillus plantarum | 198 |
| Saccharomyces boulardii (nom. inval.) | 170 |
| Lacticaseibacillus rhamnosus | 136 |
| Bacillus subtilis group | 128 |
| Limosilactobacillus reuteri | 116 |
| Lacticaseibacillus paracasei | 116 |
| Lacticaseibacillus casei | 112 |
| Bifidobacterium longum | 106 |
| Bifidobacterium animalis | 101 |
| Enterococcus faecium | 99 |
| Limosilactobacillus fermentum | 96 |
| Lactobacillus acidophilus | 89 |
| Bifidobacterium bifidum | 86 |
| Bifidobacterium animalis subsp. lactis | 81 |
| Bacillus licheniformis | 77 |
| Clostridium butyricum | 74 |
| Heyndrickxia coagulans | 72 |
| Streptococcus thermophilus | 69 |
| Bacillus amyloliquefaciens group | 63 |
| Ligilactobacillus salivarius | 62 |
| Lactobacillus helveticus | 61 |
| Lactobacillus gasseri | 52 |
| Lacticaseibacillus rhamnosus | 48 |
| Brevibacillus laterosporus | 48 |
| Pediococcus | 46 |
| Pediococcus pentosaceus | 43 |
| Akkermansia muciniphila | 43 |
| Lactobacillus johnsonii | 43 |
| Lactobacillus kefiranofaciens | 42 |
| Escherichia coli | 42 |
| Aspergillus oryzae | 40 |
| Bifidobacterium adolescentis | 38 |
| Lactococcus lactis | 36 |
| Latilactobacillus sakei | 34 |
| Lactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. bulgaricus | 34 |
| Bifidobacterium breve | 33 |
| Limosilactobacillus mucosae | 31 |
| Lacticaseibacillus casei | 30 |
| Streptococcus thermophilus | 28 |
| Lactiplantibacillus pentosus | 26 |
| Lentilactobacillus kefiri | 26 |
| Bifidobacterium longum | 26 |
| Bifidobacterium longum subsp. infantis | 24 |
| Levilactobacillus brevis | 23 |
| Enterococcus faecium | 23 |
| Bacillus subtilis group | 20 |
| Bacillus pumilus | 18 |
| Bifidobacterium pseudocatenulatum | 17 |
| Faecalibacterium prausnitzii | 16 |
| Shouchella clausii | 15 |
| Bacillus amyloliquefaciens | 14 |
| Enterococcus durans | 12 |
| Lactobacillus jensenii | 11 |
| Lentilactobacillus buchneri | 10 |
| Bifidobacterium catenulatum | 10 |
| Escherichia coli | 10 |
| Lactiplantibacillus argentoratensis | 9 |
| Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis bv. diacetylactis | 8 |
| Debaryomyces hansenii | 8 |
| Bacteroides uniformis | 5 |
| Escherichia coli | 5 |
| Blautia wexlerae | 4 |
| Streptomyces albogriseolus | 3 |
| Parabacteroides goldsteinii | 2 |
| Parabacteroides distasonis | 1 |
| Blautia hansenii | 1 |
Compared to the modelled data
| Modelled Probiotic | Different Bacteria Impacted according to model |
| Bacillus pumilus | 1272 |
| Aspergillus oryzae | 1093 |
| Lactobacillus kefiranofaciens | 1065 |
| Enterococcus faecium | 1002 |
| Lentilactobacillus kefiri | 841 |
| Bacillus licheniformis | 835 |
| Faecalibacterium prausnitzii | 671 |
| Debaryomyces hansenii | 613 |
| Blautia wexlerae | 599 |
| Lentilactobacillus buchneri | 539 |
| Heyndrickxia coagulans | 499 |
| Lactobacillus jensenii | 491 |
| Bacteroides uniformis | 481 |
| Akkermansia muciniphila | 474 |
| Lactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. bulgaricus | 449 |
| Lactiplantibacillus argentoratensis | 446 |
| Lactobacillus acidophilus | 381 |
| Blautia hansenii | 342 |
| Parabacteroides goldsteinii | 338 |
| Bacillus | 331 |
| Lactococcus lactis | 330 |
| Parabacteroides distasonis | 310 |
| Latilactobacillus sakei | 296 |
| Bifidobacterium animalis subsp. lactis | 261 |
| Pediococcus | 214 |
| Pediococcus pentosaceus | 211 |
| Lacticaseibacillus casei | 202 |
| Lactobacillus helveticus | 201 |
| Limosilactobacillus reuteri | 198 |
| Escherichia coli | 180 |
| Lactobacillus johnsonii | 179 |
| Streptococcus thermophilus | 178 |
| Shouchella clausii | 173 |
| Ligilactobacillus salivarius | 171 |
| Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis bv. diacetylactis | 158 |
| Levilactobacillus brevis | 157 |
| Bifidobacterium animalis | 116 |
| Bifidobacterium longum | 116 |
| Bifidobacterium adolescentis | 103 |
| Bifidobacterium breve | 96 |
| Limosilactobacillus mucosae | 92 |
| Lactiplantibacillus pentosus | 91 |
| Bifidobacterium | 89 |
| Limosilactobacillus fermentum | 88 |
| Bifidobacterium longum subsp. infantis | 74 |
| Enterococcus durans | 61 |
| Bifidobacterium catenulatum | 52 |
| Lactiplantibacillus plantarum | 45 |
| Lactobacillus gasseri | 35 |
| Bifidobacterium bifidum | 29 |
| Bifidobacterium pseudocatenulatum | 28 |
| Lacticaseibacillus rhamnosus | 28 |
| Clostridium butyricum | 18 |
| Lacticaseibacillus paracasei | 7 |