Microbiome Modelled Suggestions for Long Covid

This list (with live time updates as data is added) on Microbiome Prescription web site. All suggestions from this page should be reviewed by your medical professionals. These are based on modelling and not clinical studies. These are based on family and lower taxonomy ranks (genus,species,strains) reported in studies on US National Library of Medicine.

In general, people report improvements from at least half of the items on the top of the list for other conditions. Many items listed have been reports in clinical studies to help a significant percentage of patients.

Items with a low bad impact and high good impact are likely the best to start with (i.e. Sumac(Rhus coriaria) , laminaria hyperborea( tangle/cuvie – seaweed)  thyme  (oil), coriander oil  , peppermint  oil). Many of these suggestions are similar to those for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (Long COVID sibling). Suggestions for ME/CFS agreed with clinical studies results.

Reversion of Gut Microbiota during the Recovery Phase in Patients with Asymptomatic or Mild COVID-19: Longitudinal Study.
Microorganisms (Microorganisms ) Vol: 9 Issue 6 Pages:
Pub: 2021 Jun 7 Epub: 2021 Jun 7 Authors Kim HN , Joo EJ , Lee CW , Ahn KS , Kim HL , Park DI , Park SK , if(open==true){ }
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The gut microbiome of COVID-19 recovered patients returns to uninfected status in a minority-dominated United States cohort.
Gut microbes (Gut Microbes ) Vol: 13 Issue 1 Pages: 1-15
Pub: 2021 Jan-Dec Epub: Authors Newsome RC , Gauthier J , Hernandez MC , Abraham GE , Robinson TO , Williams HB , Sloan M , Owings A , Laird H , Christian T , Pride Y , Wilson KJ , Hasan M , Parker A , Senitko M , Glover SC , Gharaibeh RZ , Jobin C , if(open==true){ }
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Gut Microbiota May Not Be Fully Restored in Recovered COVID-19 Patients After 3-Month Recovery.
Frontiers in nutrition (Front Nutr ) Vol: 8 Issue Pages: 638825
Pub: 2021 Epub: 2021 May 13 Authors Tian Y , Sun KY , Meng TQ , Ye Z , Guo SM , Li ZM , Xiong CL , Yin Y , Li HG , Zhou LQ , if(open==true){ }
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Gut Microbiota Interplay With COVID-19 Reveals Links to Host Lipid Metabolism Among Middle Eastern Populations.
Frontiers in microbiology (Front Microbiol ) Vol: 12 Issue Pages: 761067
Pub: 2021 Epub: 2021 Nov 5 Authors Al Bataineh MT , Henschel A , Mousa M , Daou M , Waasia F , Kannout H , Khalili M , Kayasseh MA , Alkhajeh A , Uddin M , Alkaabi N , Tay GK , Feng SF , Yousef AF , Alsafar HS , if(open==true){ }
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The sources used for microbiome shifts


Best prediction is done when using a 16s microbiome result for the patient

NetModifier2Good ImpactBad Impact
24bacillus subtilis (probiotics)3410
21lactobacillus casei (probiotics)309
20pomegranate277
19resistant starch3415
19whey223
19bifidobacterium longum (probiotics)223
18pediococcus acidilactic (probiotic)213
17brown rice236
17wheat247
17oregano (origanum vulgare, oil) |247
16almonds/ almond skins182
15soy2510
15vitamin d2914
14walnuts2713
14whole-grain barley228
14pectin228
14wheat bran2410
14Cacao217
14dietary fiber140
14lactobacillus plantarum,xylooligosaccharides,(prebiotic) (probiotics)162
14lactobacillus reuteri (probiotics)2713
14fish oil173
14proline (amino acid)195
14bifidobacterium bifidum (probiotics)2511
13lactobacillus paracasei (probiotics)229
13lactobacillus acidophilus (probiotics)229
13Human milk oligosaccharides (prebiotic, Holigos, Stachyose)2815
12raffinose(sugar beet)164
12lauric acid(fatty acid in coconut oil,in palm kernel oil,)175
12high fiber diet208
12rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary)2513
12Conjugated Linoleic Acid142
12Alpha-Ketoglutarate186
12Burdock Root164
11glycine176
11Glucomannan110
11pea (fiber, protein)165
11fructo-oligosaccharides (prebiotic)2615
11lactobacillus rhamnosus (probiotics)2312
11lactobacillus rhamnosus gg (probiotics)198
11lactobacillus casei shirota (probiotics)132
11fat209
11bifidobacterium pseudocatenulatum,(probiotics)154
11bifidobacterium infantis,(probiotics)176
11polyphenols143
11saccharomyces boulardii (probiotics)209
11oligofructose (prebiotic)121
11apple2110
11whole grain,bran110
10vsl#3 (probiotics)144
10naringenin(grapefruit) (Flavonoid)133
10lupin seeds (anaphylaxis risk, toxic if not prepared properly)2010
10magnesium122
10red wine2313
10broad beans2010
10fasting166
10lactobacillus plantarum (probiotics)2818
10inulin (prebiotic)2616
10enterococcus faecium (probiotic)155
10hou-po-da-huang-tang111
9Goji (berry,juice)156
9fruit/legume fibre167
9oligosaccharides (prebiotic)123
9banana101
9bifidobacterium adolescentis,(probiotics)123
9bifidobacterium animalis lactis (probiotics)167
9anise134
9triphala3425
9zinc2718
9vitamin a2314
8trametes versicolor( mushroom)102
8red chiles (Capsicum)80
8xylooligosaccharide (prebiotic)91
8thyme157
8trametes versicolor(Turkey tail mushroom)102
8peppermint135
8persimmon tannin91
8resistant maltodextrin168
8selenium91
8mediterranean diet2113
8omega-3 fatty acids146
8palm kernel meal124
8bifidobacterium catenulatum,(probiotics)102
8bacillus subtilis natto (probiotics)91
8cinnamon (oil. spice)2113
8high resistant starch124
8green tea146
8jerusalem artichoke (prebiotic)113
8ketogenic diet1810
8noni124
8Acacia Gum91
8bacillus,lactobacillus,streptococcus,saccharomyces probiotic80
8yogurt80
8sarcodiotheca gaudichaudii (red sea weed)113
8brown algae113
8Soymilk80
7plantago asiatica l.125
7lactose114
7Codonopsis pilosula70
7rosa rugosa114
7dietary phytoestrogens (isoflavones)125
7chicken70
7sialyllactose (oligosaccharide ) (prebiotic)114
7polygonatum kingianum(Orange Flower Solomon’s Seal.)70
7arabinoxylan oligosaccharides (prebiotic)2013
7bacillus pumilus92
7lactobacillus gasseri (probiotics)169
7glutamate70
7foeniculum vulgare (Fennel)125
7dates92
7black raspberries125
7arabinogalactan (prebiotic)81
7garlic (allium sativum)2013
7neem136
7methyl gallate103
7polysorbate 80114
7Vitamin B-12 (Cyanocobalamin)70
7blueberry125
6buckwheat82
6vitamin b2(Riboflavin)71
6germinated barley food-stuff60
6schinus molle (herb)71
6raw potato starch104
6sesame cake/meal71
6safflower oil71
6barley2519
6chicory (prebiotic)82
6chrysanthemum morifolium126
6fibre-rich macrobiotic ma-pi 2 diet137
6daesiho-tang60
6lactobacillus salivarius (probiotics)1610
6lactobacillus brevis (probiotics)93
6Lactobacillus Johnsonii (probiotic)126
6Oyster Mushroom71
6corn60
6sesame71
6rye71
6grape fiber60
6chondrus crispus (red sea weed)93
5xylaria hypoxylon (fungi)72
5lactobacillus sakei (probiotics)50
5purple sweet potatoes94
5d-ribose50
5Whole Milk61
5brassica juncea94
5galla rhois83
5Kiwifruit72
5lactobacillus acidophilus,cellobiose (probiotics)61
5gum arabic (prebiotic)61
5chamomile (chamaemelum nobile)83
5cabbage50
5barley,oat1510
5basil61
5bacillus (probiotics)50
5rhubarb149
5navy bean1510
5n-acetyl-d-glucosamine50
5oats72
5bifidobacterium lactis bb12 (probiotics)105
5green-lipped mussel116
5genistein83
5salt (sodium chloride)83
4saccharomyces cerevisiae (probiotics)95
4sesuvium portulacastrum herb51
4tulsi51
4vegetable40
4resveratrol (grape seed/polyphenols/red wine)2420
4tannic acid106
4marijuana62
4pea protein73
4mutaflor escherichia coli nissle 1917 (probiotics)51
4moderate-protein moderate-carbohydrate51
4marjoram51
4rosa canina40
4plantain bananas40
4bifidobacterium longum bb536 (probiotics)139
4black beans73
4chitosan,(sugar)2016
4glucose (sugar)40
4fruit73
4koji aspergillus oryzae51
4laminaria digitata(oarweed – seaweed)95
4Psyllium (Plantago Ovata Husk)139
4Beet40
4Bifidobacterium animalis40
4wasabi40
4fucoidan51
4punicic acid40
4asparagus40
4Vitamin E40
4Vitamin B40
4lemon62
4western diet40
4allium cepa40
4Opium poppy (Papaver somniferum)40
4Spearmint(mentha spicata)40
4Mango ginger(curcuma amada)40
4cinnamomum zeylanicum40
4cinnamomum tamala40
4Exercise106
4potatoes106
4bifidobacterium breve (probiotic)62
4spirulina(cyanobacteria)40
4low protein diet128
4papaya40
4bean51
4fenugreek73
4quercetin,resveratrol139
4rosehip tea51
4pomegranate blossom tea51
4grape polyphenols139
4hypericum scabrum herb51
4high amylose cornstarch40
4maize40
4mannitol40
4tabebuia impetiginosa (taheebo) bark51
4vitex negundo (herb)40
3nigella sativa seed (black cumin)52
3whole-grain wheat52
3sorghum85
3lactulose1411
3bifidobacterium longum,lactobacillus helveticus (probiotics)52
3Curcumin52
3White-leaved Savory(micromeria fruticosa)52
3amaranth85
3Agavins (agave sugar)74
3avocado peel41
3Slippery Elm3027
3Gallic acid41
3Ajwain (trachyspermum ammi)63
3Taxifolin52
3Ginseng74
3Lithium96
3Dendrobium officinale74
3lactobacillus fermentum (probiotics)107
3low animal protein diet41
3l-sorbose41
3fraxinus angustifolia (narrow-leafed ash)30
3capsaicin (hot pepper)41
3coriander oil74
3enterococcus durans (probiotics)41
3aspartame (sweetner)96
3animal-based diet1411
3polymannuronic acid1714
3momordia charantia(bitter melon, karela, balsam pear, or bitter gourd)52
3low processed foods diet41
3lychee fruit (nephelium longan)30
3xylan (prebiotic)1310
3xylitol74
3sunflower oil41
3syzygium aromaticum (clove)74
3galacto-oligosaccharides (prebiotic)1916
2oolong tea polyphenols31
2oolong teas31
2tomato powder31
2tea1816
2vitamim e20
2oligofructose-enriched inulin (prebiotic)119
2oregano essential oil31
2paenibacillus polymyxa (prescript assist) (probiotics)31
2olea europaea (olive leaf)53
2mint20
2satureia montana(Winter savory)31
2(+)-catechin42
2abies alba mill. (silver fir)31
2bioflorin,enterococcus faecium sf 68,(probiotics)31
2bacopa monnieri20
2carum carvi (Caraway)31
2catechol31
2choline deficiency20
2chitooligosaccharides (prebiotic)1412
2chaga (mushroom)20
2grapes42
2l-phenylalanine20
2l-arginine20
2lemon oil20
2lemongrass oil53
2lactobacillus helveticus,lactobacillus rhamnosus (probiotics)20
2Pork86
2camellia20
2rice bran64
2Tryptophan64
2nobiletin20
2Konjaku flour64
2lactobacillus helveticus20
2bacillus laterosporus (probiotic)64
2Immortelle(helichrysum italicum)31
2milk thistle(silybum marianum)20
2bandicoot berry(leea indica)20
2Bacillus clausii (Probiotics)42
2bifidobacterium (probiotics)64
2xylopia aethiopica (herb)20
2cylicodiscus gabunensis (mimosaceae)20
2d-fructose (sugar)20
2lactobacillus paracasei,lactobacillus acidophilus,bifidobacterium animalis (probiotics)31
1galactose (milk sugar)1211
1hydrogenated palm oil10
1bifidobacterium lactis,streptococcus thermophilus probiotic87
1galla chinensis (herb)109
1Sijunzi decoction43
1Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate)76
1strawberry43
1Fiber, total dietary32
1Haritaki10
1quinoa21
1Cacoa flavonoids10
1lactobacillus kefiri (NOT KEFIR)1110
1grape seed extract87
1fumarate10
1ginger109
1doenjang (fermented bean paste)21
1aloe vera21
1ashwagandha (withania somnifera)32
1bacillus licheniformis,(probiotics)109
1ß-glucan1716
1salvia officinalis (sage)10
1plant-rich diet10
1peppermint (spice, oil)54
1moderate-carbohydrate diet10
1magnolia bark21
1peganum harmala (rue)21
1thyme oil10
1thyme (thymol, thyme oil)87

The site also provide prescription suggestions with those below being the highest ranked.

Note: There are different from those suggested for ME/CFS

Studies Selection and Weighing for Suggestions

This is a part of an ongoing series of posts that are intended for microbiome testing labs, or those interested in starting one. I am downstream from all of the microbiome labs and will gladly work with any of them — my main concern is making people better — not the financial bottom line.

This post looks at issues involved with selecting studies to use for giving suggestions to consumers of microbiome result. These are questions that I have looked at and have made my own choices (a.k.a. technically trade secrets).

Method of microbiome detection used

There are three main types, listed below. Do you restrict to only one? Do you give a weight to different methods, for example the values suggested after each below?

For a discussion of the last two, see Comparison between 16S rRNA and shotgun sequencing data for the taxonomic characterization of the gut microbiota [2021]

Life Form/non-form that the study was done on

We have a wide variety of “bacteria incubators” reported in studies, including

  • Fish (Zebra fish especially)
  • Animals – which ones? Horses, Dogs, Cats, Cows, Pigs etc
  • Chemical Reactors simulating some living creature’s environment
  • Humans
    • Which ethnic groups
    • Location that the study was done (a proxy for diet) — different results from Mexico and Japan!
    • Age — children, adults and the elderly have different responses
    • Medical conditions in the cohort

Do you do a binary include/exclude or do you apply a weight to each?

Quality of Study

The following are commonly used in evaluating studies:

  • Read Beyond the Abstract – that means getting and reading the full study, including the appendix
  • Determine Whether All Results Were Included
  • Observational Study versus Randomized Controlled Trial
  • Odds Ratios and Confidence Intervals
  • Size of study

Do you give different weights based on the above? Some literature is below:

Interpreting Studies

Different studies report things differently. For example some may report the % change of a bacteria average, others may provide the actual distribution, others may just report that the control or the cohort average was higher with (P < 0.5). It is like trying to buy gas – one person is offering it by the gallon in US$, another in litres in Euro, a third “sufficient fuel to drive 200 miles in a 1958 Land Rover” for 3 oz of silver.

Method of Aggregation

Some studies use the Hartung–Knapp–Sidik–Jonkman random effects model [2021] to combine results. Other studies use DerSimonian-Laird method (cited by Cochrane) or The generic inverse variance outcome type in RevMan.

Bottom Line

I have my own magic in combining a multitude of studies and resolving the many many issues cited above. I encourage labs to do their own resolutions and then let people compare results (if they are in agreement, everyone should be happy). The real test is whether the suggestions work. So far, for my own experience and for a reasonable number of people that have provided feedback – they have. The suggestions may not be perfect, but my goal is to give suggestions that are more likely to help.

SIBO – Addressing Upstream Issues – Mouth

The recent article Quantitative sequencing clarifies the role of disruptor taxa, oral microbiota, and strict anaerobes in the human small-intestine microbiome [2021] identifies upstream as a maintainer of SIBO. A response to this post was people asking what to do This is not news for me, I have written about this over the last 7 years.

My short form would be to use Symbioflor-1 (to address sinus issues) and make sure that you rotate through different active ingredients in mouthwashes (and I would include my dad’s favorite: rinse your mouth with Scotch Whisky [or similar] – I will leave it to you if you spit out or not 🙂 ). I would suggest reading some of the above earlier posts.

Probiotics helping (or hurting) Probiotics

A while back I built a bacteria to bacteria interaction model with rich results. With the addition of the anti-modifier page for professionals, my mind went over to finding probiotic interactions. This is based on the 2000+ microbiome samples uploaded. I have the basic results below

The more positive, the Impact number the more it helps the other species. A negative number indicates that it will reduce the other. Thus, you should not take Clostridium butyricum and Akkermansia muciniphila together. If you are trying to increase Bifidobacterium bifidum then take Arthrobacter (in Prescript-Assist®/SBO Probiotic) and/or Lactobacillus paracasei.

You may wish to check my retail probiotic page to find out which products contains different species.

Take ThisTo Increase This
Akkermansia muciniphilaClostridium butyricum-6
ArthrobacterBifidobacterium bifidum21
ArthrobacterBifidobacterium catenulatum4
Bifidobacterium adolescentisBifidobacterium bifidum3
Bifidobacterium adolescentisBifidobacterium breve7
Bifidobacterium adolescentisLactobacillus fermentum8
Bifidobacterium adolescentisLactobacillus rhamnosus3
Bifidobacterium bifidumArthrobacter20
Bifidobacterium bifidumBifidobacterium adolescentis3
Bifidobacterium bifidumBifidobacterium catenulatum7
Bifidobacterium bifidumLactobacillus fermentum8
Bifidobacterium bifidumLactobacillus paracasei13
Bifidobacterium bifidumLactobacillus salivarius4
Bifidobacterium bifidumLactococcus lactis5
Bifidobacterium breveBifidobacterium adolescentis4
Bifidobacterium breveBifidobacterium longum13
Bifidobacterium breveLactobacillus crispatus9
Bifidobacterium breveLactobacillus rhamnosus6
Bifidobacterium catenulatumArthrobacter5
Bifidobacterium catenulatumBifidobacterium bifidum7
Bifidobacterium longumBifidobacterium breve18
Bifidobacterium longumLactobacillus fermentum3
Clostridium butyricumAkkermansia muciniphila-6
Lactobacillus crispatusBifidobacterium breve12
Lactobacillus crispatusLactobacillus rhamnosus7
Lactobacillus crispatusPediococcus6
Lactobacillus fermentumBifidobacterium adolescentis9
Lactobacillus fermentumBifidobacterium bifidum8
Lactobacillus fermentumBifidobacterium longum3
Lactobacillus paracaseiBifidobacterium bifidum12
Lactobacillus paracaseiLactobacillus plantarum4
Lactobacillus plantarumLactobacillus paracasei3
Lactobacillus plantarumLactobacillus rhamnosus3
Lactobacillus plantarumPediococcus3
Lactobacillus rhamnosusBifidobacterium adolescentis4
Lactobacillus rhamnosusBifidobacterium breve6
Lactobacillus rhamnosusLactobacillus crispatus9
Lactobacillus rhamnosusLactobacillus plantarum5
Lactobacillus salivariusBifidobacterium bifidum4
Lactobacillus salivariusPediococcus5
Lactococcus lactisBifidobacterium bifidum4
Leuconostoc mesenteroidesPediococcus3
PediococcusLactobacillus crispatus8
PediococcusLactobacillus plantarum4
PediococcusLactobacillus salivarius5
PediococcusLeuconostoc mesenteroides4

Increasing Akkermansia: Probiotics and Kampo

This is a personal observation post and not my traditional aggregation of studies. Your experience may differ.

Known Sources:

Akkermansia Probiotic

This is available exclusively as Pendulum Akkermansia. We signed up for the subscription plan when it was first announced, and they have kept shipping at their low introductory price every month. Within I week of getting the first shipment, I read a few posts that “it did not persist”. Excuse me, the typical turnaround time for a microbiome test is 3-4 weeks. I suspect that someone is gas-lighting. Or, they may have been taking a hostile probiotic at the same time.

We subscribed to only one bottle and we decided that the wife would take it for the first two months (we rotate probiotics). The results were her Akkermansia muciniphila went from 4,530 to 64,920 (91%ile) — so, it appears to have persisted (or helped the native ones to prosper by creating a friendlier environment). I should point out that that the fact that she has some to start with may be a significant factor for this awesome increase (that is, the environment was not totally hostile).

She noticed some significant changes, to her the most significant one was a major improvement in sleep.

Kampo (Japanese Name)

This is also known as fang feng tong sheng san (Chinese: also may be named: Fang Feng Tong Sheng Pian (Fang Feng Tong Sheng Wan,  防风通圣片) – best names to use on Amazon) or Bofu-tsusho-san. A professional user of Microbiome Prescription reported a major increase of Akkermansia with his patients using this and forwarded two studies that illustrated this.

  • Bofutsushosan improves gut barrier function with a bloom of Akkermansia muciniphila and improves glucose metabolism in mice with diet-induced obesity. [2020]
  • Increase of Akkermansia muciniphila by a Diet Containing Japanese Traditional Medicine Bofutsushosan in a Mouse Model of Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease [2020]
A massive bloom!
As an image

So, what else does Kampo do?

For additional studies, see pub-med.

https://www.tsumura.co.jp/english/products/pi/JPR_T062.pdf

Other Approaches

Current Experiment

As mentioned above, we rotate probiotics as a standard practice in our household. I am starting both the Akkermansia and Kampo and plan to do a new microbiome report in a month (so 2 months until this post gets updated). I expect a significant jump in my Akkermansia. At last test, it was 570 or 0.05% (via Biomesight), below the lower end of Dr. Jason Hawrelak Recommended ranges.

Results:

A 7 to 8 fold increase was seen after a month. The probiotic was stopped for a week before the sample was taken.

May be an image of text that says "Low High Description Bacteria Distribution (KM) BiomeSight (KM) 2021-10- 19 Self (family) Akkermansiaceae 16 Concern? Count BiomeSight 269847 글 Bacteria 2022-01- 24 Self (genus) Akkermansia Percentile 10 Distribution 570 269847 Count 署 Bacteria 34.7 (species) Akkermansia muciniphila Percentile 16 Distribution 570 4160 雪 199384 34.6 53.3 Bactena Distribution 570 4160 38.5 38 64.7 4160 55.9"
Using BiomeSight algorithm on FASTQ file
May be an image of text that says "Low Description iption High Bacteria Distribution (KM) Thryve (KM) 2021-09- 09 TEKNT (family)Akkermansiaceae 16 Concern? Thryve Count 269847 2022-01- 24 self (genus) Akkermansia Bacteria Percentile 10 Distribution 637 Count 269847 (species) Akkermansia muciniphila 言 Bacteria 35.8 Percentile 16 Distribution 637 4226 199384 言 Bacteria 35.7 53.4 Distribution 631 4276 64.8 39.4 4203 55.9"
Using Ombre algorithm on FASTQ file

As an unintended side-effect, a lost of 7+ kilos over 7 weeks without changing diet (or dieting)!!! I have also taken high dosages of bifidobacterium infantis with it. It is known to encourage akkermansia too.

Before/Donor/After FMT Analysis

A user of my site that is active consulting on autism microbiome manipulation obtained permissions for me to do an analysis of one of his patients going through FMT. All of the microbiome testing was done via Biomesight (including the donor). This is specific type of data that I have been pleading to see if we can make predictive models of what could occur with FMT.

MeasurePriorDonorAfter
Taxonomy374406550
Elusive336
Rare4817
Sparse121533
Infrequent283768
Uncommon6689145

I did analysis at the Species, Genus, Family, Order and Class level trying many many approaches. This summarize my key findings.

The second sample was done one month after the FMT. Patient was very good for a couple of days, then “the war started”. New more severe autism symptoms appeared.

Do NOT expect it to reduce overgrowths!

Looking at the lowest numbers of the recipient prior and the donor, we found that the post-FMT numbers had a clear pattern.

  • At the Class level, 97% was higher than the lowest of the two, 58% was higher than the highest
  • At the Order level, 96% was higher than the lowest of the two, 56% was higher than the highest
  • At the Family level, 95% was higher than the lowest of the two, 61% was higher than the highest
  • At the Genus level, 91% was higher than the lowest of the two, 51% was higher than the highest
  • At the Species level, 94% was higher than the lowest of the two, 47% was higher than the highest

This was shocking — 50% of the bacteria will be higher than either the donor’s or recipient’s levels. Many people will assume that the levels will magically average the two levels. The reality seen here is that only 50% of the time will the new level be between these two levels and 50%of the time it will be higher than either. This is unlikely to be a preferred outcome.

Unexpected Disappearances

There were several items where both the recipient and the donor had bacteria, they were gone in the post-FMT sample! This was not expected, of special interest is that Lactobacillus was wiped out.

  • Order: Puniceicoccales
  • Family: Clostridiales Family XVI. Incertae Sedis
  • Family: Lactobacillaceae
  • Family: Puniceicoccaceae
  • Genus: Alkalibacterium
  • Genus: Butyricimonas
  • Genus: Carboxydocella
  • Genus: Catonella
  • Genus: Lactobacillus
  • Genus: Macrococcus
  • Genus: Pelagicoccus
  • Genus: Turicibacter
  • Species: lingnae
  • Species: Streptococcus oralis
  • Species: Veillonella parvula
  • Species: Streptococcus pseudopneumoniae
  • Species: Carboxydocella ferrireducens
  • Species: Sutterella wadsworthensis
  • Species: Catonella morbi

Many New Kids showed up!

These are bacteria not seen in the recipient prior nor the donor sample

  • Class Level: Acidobacteria, Calditrichae,Chitinophagia,Flavobacteriia,Ktedonobacteria,
  • Order Level: Acidobacteriales, Calditrichales, Caulobacterales, Chitinophagales, Chroococcales, Desulfobacterales, Flavobacteriales, Kiloniellales, Nostocales, Oscillatoriales, Rhodocyclales, Rickettsiales, Streptosporangiales, Synechococcales, Syntrophobacterales, Thermogemmatisporales,
  • Family Level: Acetobacteraceae, Acidobacteriaceae, Anaplasmataceae, Calditrichaceae, Caulobacteraceae, Chitinophagaceae, Chroococcaceae, Clostridiales Family XII. Incertae Sedis, Cyanobacteriaceae, Cytophagaceae, Desulfobacteraceae, Dysgonamonadaceae, Flavobacteriaceae, Fusobacteriaceae, Hymenobacteraceae, Kiloniellaceae, Listeriaceae, Nostocaceae, Oceanospirillaceae, Oscillatoriaceae, Oxalobacteraceae, Prevotellaceae, Pseudanabaenaceae, Rhodanobacteraceae, Rhodocyclaceae, Rickettsiaceae, Rivulariaceae, Streptosporangiaceae, Synechococcaceae, Syntrophobacteraceae, Thermogemmatisporaceae, Thiotrichaceae, Verrucomicrobiaceae,
  • Genus Level: Acholeplasma, Acidaminobacter, Aminobacterium, Ammonifex, Anoxybacillus, Asticcacaulis, Bilophila, Caldithrix, Calothrix, Catenibacterium, Chroococcus, Cyanobacterium, Desulfofrigus, Desulfosporosinus, Dokdonella, Dysgonomonas, Edaphobacter, Ehrlichia, Emticicia, Escherichia, Fusibacter, Fusobacterium, Gillisia, Haemophilus, Insolitispirillum, Kushneria, Listeria, Luteibacter, Lysinibacillus, Marinospirillum, Microbacterium, Neisseria, Niastella, Novispirillum, Oleomonas, Olivibacter, Oscillatoria, Parapedobacter, Paraprevotella, Pelotomaculum, Pontibacter, Ralstonia, Rickettsia, Roseomonas, Sarcina, Sebaldella, Skermanella, Tepidanaerobacter, Tepidimicrobium, Thalassospira, Thermoanaerobacter, Thermogemmatispora, Thiothrix,
  • I will skip the species level…

Bottom line is that the microbiome has become much more diverse

Recent FMT aspects

FMT destabilizes the microbiome, there are “strain riots” in the guts. We can see this with all of the “New Kids” showing up because the existing occupants are busy dealing with each other. This can be seen by the post microbiome having a lot more taxonomical items (550 vs 374 before – a 47% increase), The microbiome, over time, will downsize and stabilize with a new normal. During this period, you want to entrench your desired items by feeding it the right things and avoiding the wrong thing.

Personally, I would suggest a new sample every 6 weeks to monitor the stabilization.

Is FMT Worth the Risk?

FMT is effectively an organ transplant. Like organ transplants, there are significant risks of rejection and no way to undo it once it happens. From correspondence with many people who have tried it for ME/CFS, my feelings are that it is not a magic bullet. It is closer to playing Russian roulette, but with 5 of the 6 bullet chambers having bullets in the chambers.

I just spent 90 minutes zooming to the consultant involved with this autistic child. We both agreed that FMT for autistic children is not a wise course. The consultant is scratching their head on what to help this child recover from this situation.

Some prior posts on FMT

Hydration and the Microbiome

If you are dehydrated you will typically see a change of stools. Seeing hard pebbles and dry stools is a logical consequence of the body rationing water. Recently, we got a new smart scale ($30 on Amazon) that comes with a smart phone app and does multiple measures, including hydration. I have been running below the desired range, so I am busy hydrating with Gerolsteiner Mineral Water (from Traders Joe) etc.

Conceptually, the availability of water should impact the microbiome. So tonight I started to search out studies to confirm my speculation.

Effect of Increased Daily Water Intake and Hydration on Health in Japanese Adults, 2020

There were five out of the 108 types of intestinal bacterium at the genus level that showed significant differences within and between groups due to water supplementation, and 17 out of 564 species identified by the homology search of OTU representative sequences in the DDBJ 16S database showed the same behavior… Of these, a slight correlation was seen in the intervention group between changes in blood pressure and changes in the Psudoflavonifractor capillosus bacterial count (R = 0.42) Kineothrix sp. (R = 0.36), Feacalibacterium prausnitzii (R = 0.38), and Ruminococcaceae (R = 0.34) showed weak correlations between changes in body temperature and changes in bacterial count

Some related studies that implies impact on the microbiome but failed to do microbiome analysis with the study

Dehydration is often reported as a contributor to various conditions

Bottom Line

Hydration is an often overlooked aspect of improving the microbiome. It has impacts on blood pressure, body temperature, mood and cognitive ability. While we have few studies on it’s microbiome impact, we can likely assume safely that improved hydration will improve the microbiome. It should not be left to a “I drink enough water, I do not feel dehydrated”, but with actual measurements. Improving it is actually a slow process — my goal is to shift from my current level below, to at least 55%.

Revisions of Symptom Entry and Management

I just pushed an update that included features requested by a reader. The main items are:

  • Ability to enter symptoms when you do a test (“Pending Sample”)
  • Ability to copy symptoms from one sample to another
  • Ability to delete all symptoms for a sample with one click
  • Generation of a short list of possible symptoms from your bacteria

All of these options are shown for each sample via the dropdown:

Entering Symptoms

This has had one minor change, a new choice appears, “Pending Sample”. It allows you to enter symptoms when you do the sample (instead of trying to remember them 4 weeks later). Also two buttons are added to make status easier. Remember to use the Search box to filter

using Search
Clicking [Show All Items]


Clicking [Show Picked Items]


Quick Symptoms Additions

This takes your forecast symptoms with sufficient significance, removes any symptoms already entered, then show symptoms to consider.

If you check a few and click [Add]

These items will disappear from this list.

Symptoms Management

This allows you to copy symptoms between samples (for example, the same sample may be processed by multiple labs). Just select the sample you wish to copy from and click [Copy]

If you realized that you made a mistake, you do not have to uncheck item by item. you can single click all of the items.

Addendum

The algorithm for predicting symptoms has been revised (hopefully improved). There may be a further change, have some complex modelling to add. Also the ability to change from sample to sample has been added

From Bacteria prediction
From Consensus Report

Colonoscopy prep may be a blessing

A reader mentioned getting scheduled for one. Coincidentally, a week ago, I had a natural clearing out of the bowels (source unknown). I suspect that both scenario may produce the same opportunity to do some restructuring.

The first item to be aware of, gravity, bacteria further up the flow will repopulate (for better or worst). For myself, once it became clear that the bowels were being deeply emptied, I loaded up on herbs that impact many of the bad bacteria for a day (several capsules of each, several times a day).

The rationale was to thin out the bacteria that are up-channel.

I then started to repopulate, the first item, an E.Coli probiotic, symbioflor 2 e.coli probiotics, stopped the natural clearing within 2 hrs (not surprising given what made Mutaflor, the alternative E.Coli probiotic, famous back in 1918). I then proceeded to load up on only probiotics that are known to persist (see thus post, Studies on Probiotic Persistence). For myself, I noticed some improvements (but really I do not have much wrong to improve).

This simple approach conceptually should work with colonoscopy prep. If moviprep (prescription)  is being used, we have a pretty good profile on it’s impact from BMJ’s Effects of bowel cleansing on the intestinal microbiota

That’s it — seize the opportunity!

Which brand of Herbs? A reader asked

Long ago we changed over to making our own pills/capsules using Organic Bulk Purchases. It has the following benefits:

  • Much lower cost per capsules
  • It is organic ingredients
  • Often you can also make tea from it (depends if it is powdered or not)
  • No fillers or creative mixology from brands.

A few examples

Organic India Triphala Powder - Immune Support, Digestion, Adaptogen, Colon Cleanse, Nutrient Dense, Vegan, Gluten-Free, Kosher, USDA Certified Organic, Non-GMO, Triphala Powder Organic - 1 Lb Bag
454 g for $16, versus 41 g for $15 as retail capsules
220 g for $7 versus 90 g for $19.00 as prepared capsules

One Readers Feedback

The experiment was an abject failure, unfortunately. 
I cleared the bowels and took no action the day of colonoscopy (Monday), other than to eat a dinner that included some fermentable fiber veggies. 
The next day (Tuesday) I took the baby scoop of Custom Probiotics D Lactate Free, which includes l rhamnosus. Continued eating meats and fermentable fiber veggies, introducing some shitaakes.
SIBO symptoms roared back with a vengeance that seemed almost too fast to be possible. By Tuesday night I had gross SIBO burps and an upset tummy. 
Wednesday I took a heaping baby spoonful of d-lactate free probiotics and suffered even more upset. By Thursday I forewent the probiotics but continued eating fermentable fibers, with a violent, burning, smelly bowel clearing that evening. I also became uncharacteristically emotionally reactive. 

Felt better Friday and switched to non-fermentable fibers. I had an mHBOT session that typically “resets” me, but after a low-fermentable fiber dinner, I got hit with a wave of brain fog I haven’t had for some time since doing rifaximin in Sept, continuing HBOT, and taking continued boswellia and Atrantil. 
I fogged out again after my morning Americano today, which is usually fine. Having unhappy poops again. A bit frustrated—I seem to have sent myself in the wrong direction and don’t totally understand why. I’ll add theanine for mast-cell control and start neem. Considering a rifaximin round. 
One theory—I have high mycophenolic acid in urine, and noted rats without microbiome do better when inundated with mycophenolic acid. Wonder if this is an angle to explore. 
Anyway! I thought you may be interested in the results—hope this wasn’t an overshare! I figure we’re all learning together.  

My comment: It is clear that the clearing set things up for a change – unfortunately, it went in the wrong direction. One of the items that I cited, “load up on only probiotics that are known to persist (see thus post, Studies on Probiotic Persistence).” was not done — Custom Probiotics D Lactate Free is not known to persist.

Producers of Butyrate, D-Lactic Acid and Histamines

These are often asked for with people often running off old research. Often the research is based on seeing an increase of one of these when a specific bacteria increase… hence. this bacteria must be producing it! This was the best that we could do from old, last millennium technology and lab tests. We have enter a new world that is summarized on Kyoto Encyclopedia of Genes and Genomes. Instead of measuring substances (never with a pure culture of a specific bacteria), we can look at the gene in each bacteria and what they produce. In other words, we can get more accurate information that is truly bacteria specific.

https://www.kegg.jp/entry/C00388

These pages list the enzymes that produces it, for example 1.4.3.22        2.1.1.8         2.3.1.-         4.1.1.22        
6.3.2.18. We can then look to see if the enzyme consumes (substrate) or produces it.

https://www.kegg.jp/entry/2.1.1.8 This CONSUMES histamine
https://www.kegg.jp/entry/4.1.1.22 this PRODUCES histamine

Then it is just a matter of looking up which bacteria has these enzymes!

Specific Species and Strains

The three files below are directly from KEGG data

Genus of the producers

Unfortunately, no lab detects all of these strains and often report “unknown Species in Some Genus“. I have seen that being as high as 45% not being identified in some samples. A work around is to look at the genus numbers — which are usually pretty complete for most labs. This is a two sided coin, because some members of a genus may be a producer and some may not be. We do not know the ratio for a genus between these two. This approach will identify potential candidates, but not definite candidates… more fuzzy logic.

Bottom Line

All of this information is freely available on Kyoto Encyclopedia of Genes and Genomes, it just take diligence to extract and assemble it. If you see items on a labs reporting that is NOT on these lists, challenge the lab to produce evidence. I suspect most labs will produce studies with circumstantial evidence only, “because crime goes up when this ethnic group moves in — it must be that ethnic group” — ignoring that a different ethnic group may be behind it. An example of a drug problem in one city at one time. Most of the drug dealers were African-Americans, but the importers were Vietnamese. With KEGG, we are looking for the fingerprints on the gun or drug packages intercepted,